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Problema avvio distro live di gnome 64bit - bootmgr mancante

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Ciao :)

Ieri ho messo usando unetbootin-windows-625 la distro sulla penna usb in modo da renderla avviabile.

L'ho scaricata da qui: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME

Ho preso la versione 64bit, però quando sono andato ad avviarla come al solito ma questa volta usando un pc diverso e più potente sul quale è installato win7;64bit all'avvio mi è uscita questa schermata:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5dFEJ ... sp=sharing

Prima di unetbootin avevo provato rufus cosi per curiosità di provarlo, li infatti ha detto che mancavano alcuni file e li avrebbe scaricati, ma visto che con le altre distro 32bit provate (xubuntu e mate) non avevo avuto nessun tipo di problema ho deciso di tornare ad usare unetbootin il quale non ha dato nessun messaggio di allerta,però evidentemente qualcosa mancava comunque.

Ora non ho a portata l'immagine iso della distribuzione per provare con rufus...come devo comportarmi ?
Dovrei provare con rufus.

Se puo centrare il pc usa un processore intel.

Saluti :)
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Re: Problema avvio distro live di gnome 64bit - bootmgr manc

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Se si tratta di un compiuter più recente rispetto all'altro il problema potrebbe essere dovuto dalle impostazioni UEFI. Hai disattivato il secure boot?
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Re: Problema avvio distro live di gnome 64bit - bootmgr manc

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Alecomante1 [url=http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?p=4942485#p4942485][img]http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/images/icons/icona-cita.gif[/img][/url] ha scritto:Se si tratta di un compiuter più recente rispetto all'altro il problema potrebbe essere dovuto dalle impostazioni UEFI. Hai disattivato il secure boot?
Il pc è questo :

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xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ sudo ishw
sudo: ishw: command not found
xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ sudo lshw
xubuntu                   
    description: Mini Tower Computer
    product: OptiPlex 330
    vendor: Dell Inc.
    serial: 1Y4QX3J
    width: 32 bits
    capabilities: smbios-2.5 dmi-2.5 smp-1.4 smp
    configuration: administrator_password=enabled boot=normal chassis=mini-tower cpus=2 power-on_password=enabled uuid=44454C4C-5900-1034-8051-B1C04F58334A
  *-core
       description: Motherboard
       product: 0KP561
       vendor: Dell Inc.
       physical id: 0
       serial: ..CN7082186IB1X6.
     *-firmware
          description: BIOS
          vendor: Dell Inc.
          physical id: 0
          version: A05
          date: 07/14/2008
          size: 64KiB
          capacity: 960KiB
          capabilities: pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect edd int13floppytoshiba int13floppy720 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer acpi usb biosbootspecification netboot
     *-cpu:0
          description: CPU
          product: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2180  @ 2.00GHz
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          physical id: 400
          bus info: cpu@0
          version: 6.15.13
          serial: 0000-06FD-0000-0000-0000-0000
          slot: CPU
          size: 2GHz
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 800MHz
          capabilities: x86-64 boot fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm dtherm
          configuration: cores=2 enabledcores=2 id=0 threads=2
        *-cache:0
             description: L1 cache
             physical id: 700
             size: 32KiB
             capacity: 32KiB
             capabilities: internal write-back data
             configuration: level=1
        *-cache:1
             description: L2 cache
             physical id: 701
             size: 1MiB
             capacity: 1MiB
             capabilities: internal varies unified
             configuration: level=2
        *-logicalcpu:0
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.1
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:1
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.2
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
     *-memory
          description: System Memory
          physical id: 1000
          slot: System board or motherboard
          size: 2GiB
        *-bank:0
             description: DIMM DDR2 Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
             product: V916765K24QCFW-G6
             vendor: ProMOS/Mosel Vitelic
             physical id: 0
             serial: 74741411
             slot: DIMM_1
             size: 1GiB
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 800MHz (1.2ns)
        *-bank:1
             description: DIMM DDR2 Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
             product: V916765K24QCFW-G6
             vendor: ProMOS/Mosel Vitelic
             physical id: 1
             serial: 64741412
             slot: DIMM_2
             size: 1GiB
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 800MHz (1.2ns)
     *-cpu:1
          physical id: 1
          bus info: cpu@1
          version: 6.15.13
          serial: 0000-06FD-0000-0000-0000-0000
          size: 2GHz
          capabilities: ht
          configuration: id=0
        *-logicalcpu:0
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.1
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:1
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.2
             capabilities: logical
     *-pci
          description: Host bridge
          product: 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller
          vendor: Intel Corporation
          physical id: 100
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
          version: 0a
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          configuration: driver=agpgart-intel
          resources: irq:0
        *-pci:0
             description: PCI bridge
             product: 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express PCI Express Root Port
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
             version: 0a
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pm msi pciexpress normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:24 memory:dfc00000-dfcfffff
        *-display:0
             description: VGA compatible controller
             product: 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
             version: 0a
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
             configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
             resources: irq:26 memory:dfe00000-dfe7ffff ioport:ecd8(size=8) memory:c0000000-cfffffff memory:dff00000-dfffffff
        *-display:1 UNCLAIMED
             description: Display controller
             product: 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 2.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:02.1
             version: 0a
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
             configuration: latency=0
             resources: memory:dfe80000-dfefffff
        *-multimedia
             description: Audio device
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1b
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
             version: 01
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
             resources: irq:28 memory:dfdfc000-dfdfffff
        *-pci:1
             description: PCI bridge
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 1
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1c
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.0
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:25 ioport:1000(size=4096) memory:dfb00000-dfbfffff ioport:80000000(size=2097152)
           *-network
                description: Ethernet interface
                product: NetLink BCM5787 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
                vendor: Broadcom Corporation
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
                logical name: enp2s0
                version: 02
                serial: 00:1e:c9:5a:90:e2
                capacity: 1Gbit/s
                width: 64 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm vpd msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
                configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=tg3 driverversion=3.137 firmware=5787-v3.23 latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair
                resources: irq:29 memory:dfbf0000-dfbfffff
        *-usb:0
             description: USB controller
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:21 ioport:ff80(size=32)
           *-usbhost
                product: UHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-31-generic uhci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@2
                logical name: usb2
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
              *-usb
                   description: Keyboard
                   product: DELL USB Keyboard
                   vendor: DELL
                   physical id: 2
                   bus info: usb@2:2
                   version: 1.05
                   capabilities: usb-1.10
                   configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA speed=2Mbit/s
        *-usb:1
             description: USB controller
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.1
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:22 ioport:ff60(size=32)
           *-usbhost
                product: UHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-31-generic uhci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@3
                logical name: usb3
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
        *-usb:2
             description: USB controller
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.2
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:18 ioport:ff40(size=32)
           *-usbhost
                product: UHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-31-generic uhci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@4
                logical name: usb4
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
        *-usb:3
             description: USB controller
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.3
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:23 ioport:ff20(size=32)
           *-usbhost
                product: UHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-31-generic uhci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@5
                logical name: usb5
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
              *-usb
                   description: Mouse
                   product: ZELOTES GAME MOUSE
                   vendor: ZLY
                   physical id: 1
                   bus info: usb@5:1
                   version: 1.05
                   capabilities: usb-1.10
                   configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA speed=12Mbit/s
        *-usb:4
             description: USB controller
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.7
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.7
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=0
             resources: irq:21 memory:ff980800-ff980bff
           *-usbhost
                product: EHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-31-generic ehci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@1
                logical name: usb1
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-2.00
                configuration: driver=hub slots=8 speed=480Mbit/s
              *-usb
                   description: Mass storage device
                   product: USB DISK 2.0
                   physical id: 8
                   bus info: usb@1:8
                   logical name: scsi6
                   version: 1.00
                   serial: 07A70701001851FA
                   capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host
                   configuration: driver=usb-storage maxpower=200mA speed=480Mbit/s
                 *-disk
                      description: SCSI Disk
                      physical id: 0.0.0
                      bus info: scsi@6:0.0.0
                      logical name: /dev/sdb
                      size: 3814MiB (3999MB)
                      capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
                      configuration: logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512 signature=c5859342
                    *-volume
                         description: Windows FAT volume
                         vendor: SYSLINUX
                         physical id: 1
                         bus info: scsi@6:0.0.0,1
                         logical name: /dev/sdb1
                         logical name: /cdrom
                         version: FAT32
                         serial: 581e-54ee
                         size: 3813MiB
                         capacity: 3813MiB
                         capabilities: primary bootable fat initialized
                         configuration: FATs=2 filesystem=fat mount.fstype=vfat mount.options=ro,noatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro state=mounted
        *-pci:2
             description: PCI bridge
             product: 82801 PCI Bridge
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1e
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1e.0
             version: e1
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci subtractive_decode bus_master cap_list
        *-isa
             description: ISA bridge
             product: 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: isa bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=lpc_ich latency=0
             resources: irq:0
        *-ide
             description: IDE interface
             product: 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.1
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: ide bus_master
             configuration: driver=ata_piix latency=0
             resources: irq:16 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:ffa0(size=16)
        *-storage
             description: SATA controller
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.2
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: storage msi pm ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ahci latency=0
             resources: irq:27 ioport:fe00(size=8) ioport:fe10(size=4) ioport:fe20(size=8) ioport:fe30(size=4) ioport:fec0(size=16) memory:80200000-802003ff
        *-serial UNCLAIMED
             description: SMBus
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             configuration: latency=0
             resources: ioport:ece0(size=32)
     *-scsi:0
          physical id: 2
          logical name: scsi2
          capabilities: emulated
        *-disk
             description: ATA Disk
             product: WDC WD800JD-75MS
             vendor: Western Digital
             physical id: 0.0.0
             bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0
             logical name: /dev/sda
             version: 1E04
             serial: WD-WMAM9CUU2020
             size: 74GiB (80GB)
             capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
             configuration: ansiversion=5 logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512 signature=5eff4ed2
           *-volume:0
                description: Windows FAT volume
                vendor: Dell 8.0
                physical id: 1
                bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,1
                logical name: /dev/sda1
                version: FAT16
                serial: 07d8-0906
                size: 70MiB
                capacity: 70MiB
                capabilities: primary fat initialized
                configuration: FATs=2 filesystem=fat label=DellUtility
           *-volume:1
                description: Windows NTFS volume
                physical id: 2
                bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,2
                logical name: /dev/sda2
                version: 3.1
                serial: c00dccac-06b3-9d4b-b41d-a9512e453145
                size: 74GiB
                capacity: 74GiB
                capabilities: primary bootable ntfs initialized
                configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2008-09-06 08:38:21 filesystem=ntfs state=clean
     *-scsi:1
          physical id: 3
          logical name: scsi3
          capabilities: emulated
        *-cdrom
             description: DVD-RAM writer
             product: DVD+-RW GSA-H73N
             vendor: HL-DT-ST
             physical id: 0.0.0
             bus info: scsi@3:0.0.0
             logical name: /dev/cdrom
             logical name: /dev/cdrw
             logical name: /dev/dvd
             logical name: /dev/dvdrw
             logical name: /dev/sr0
             version: C106
             serial: [
             capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
             configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ 
Personalmente non so come capire se il pc ha il uefi ma penso di no:

Quando sono andato nel bios per cambiare l'ordine di boot ho trovato un interfaccia classica e non quella che ho trovato qui :
http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/upl ... Qz8gSk.jpg
.

La grafica era tipo questa:
https://www.google.it/url?sa=i&rct=j&q= ... 2506358869

e non antica come quest'altra :
https://wpcf.neosmart.net/sites/5/2014/ ... t-Mode.jpg

però il pc è solo " più nuovo".

Siete riusciti a vedere la foto che ho pestato, non so se ho condiviso bene il link.

Cosa posso fare ?
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comunque non dovrebbe avere il uefi perchè in passato quando c'era installato win xp ho provato xubuntu 32bit dal quale ho ottenuto quei dati postati sopra.
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Re: Problema avvio distro live di gnome 64bit - bootmgr manc

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Unetbootin ha problemi da parecchio tempo. Meglio usare rufus.
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Re: Problema avvio distro live di gnome 64bit - bootmgr manc

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Ciao :)

Si hai ragione, era proprio colpa di Unetbootin che a differenza di rufus che mi segnalava il bisogno di scaricare dei dati questi: http://i.imgur.com/bBs408o.png ... Unetbootin non diceva nulla e sicuramente non includeva questi file.

Ora infatti che ho creato la usb avviabile con rufus va tutto bene, però Unetbootin non mi aveva dato problemi per le versioni 32 bit di ubuntu mate e xubuntu.
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