[Risolto] Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde

[develop]

Il mio pinguino è dotato di Ubuntu con Kde come DE (installato Ubuntu, fatto gli aggiornamenti e poi da terminale: sudo apt-get install kde-full).
Prima lavoravo con Ubuntu e Unity (diciamo, la versione "default") poi ho voluto provare Kde senza installare Kubuntu.
Ma qual è la differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde?

[ale multimediale]

Sostanzialmente nessuna differenza..Kubuntu è ubuntu con DE kde e i programmi in qt di kde preinstallati che ti installa anche kde-full..Quindi se hai rimoso completamente unity e i suoi programmi si puo dire che ora hai kubuntu come se fosse stato installato "normalmente"

[jackynet92]

sposto al bar.

[caturen]

Sostanzialmente nessuna differenza..Kubuntu è ubuntu con DE kde e i programmi in qt di kde preinstallati che ti installa anche kde-full..Quindi se hai rimoso completamente unity e i suoi programmi si puo dire che ora hai kubuntu come se fosse stato installato "normalmente"

Non penso sia così. Lo sarebbe se avesse installato il meta pacchetto kubuntu-desktop, ma installando kde-full ha installato si tutto il "sistema kde" ma non ha installato tutti i pacchetti che fanno la "personalizzazione" kubuntu

Per avere un'installazione completa dell'ambiente grafico KDE4 installare il pacchetto kde-full. ...


Per installare tutti i pacchetti contenuti nel CD di Kubuntu Installare il metapacchetto kubuntu-desktop.

http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmbienteGrafi ... azioneKde4

[ale multimediale]

La differenza precisa tra i due pacchetti non la so ma pare che comunque installino piu o meno lo stesso numero di pacchetti http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239653 qui dice che kde-full installato subito dopo una mini.iso installa addirittura piu pacchetti di kubuntu-desktop mentre se lo si vuole installare a fianco ad esempio unity è l'inverso..Non mi dispiacerebbe fare chiarezza definitiva su sta cosa ma questo è il poco che trovo in giro sul web per quanto riguarda l'installazione su ubuntu...

Quello che ho capito pero è che entrambi i pacchetti installano un pacco di roba e cosi gli ho sempre evitati in favore del piu minimale plasma-desktop

[caturen]

ecco la differenza:
kde-full

Codice: Seleziona tutto

caturen@caturen:~$ sudo apt-get install kde-full
[sudo] password for caturen: 
Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
Generazione albero delle dipendenze       
Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
I seguenti pacchetti saranno inoltre installati:
  advancecomp akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server akregator amor ark
  avogadro-data blogilo bomber bovo cervisia cvs cvsservice docbook-xsl
  dolphin dragonplayer espeak espeak-data filelight fonts-dustin
  freespacenotifier gawk gdb gnugo gnupg-agent gnupg2 gpsd graphviz gwenview
  icoutils jovie juk kaccessible kaddressbook kajongg kalarm kalgebra
  kalgebra-common kalzium kalzium-data kamera kanagram kapman kapptemplate
  kate kate-data katepart katomic kbattleship kblackbox kblocks kbounce
  kbreakout kbruch kcachegrind kcalc kcharselect kcolorchooser kde-baseapps
  kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-config-cddb kde-config-cron
  kde-plasma-desktop kde-plasma-netbook kde-runtime kde-runtime-data
  kde-standard kde-style-oxygen kde-wallpapers kde-wallpapers-default
  kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin
  kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdeaccessibility kdeadmin
  kdeartwork kdeartwork-emoticons kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-window
  kdeedu kdeedu-kvtml-data kdegames kdegames-card-data kdegames-mahjongg-data
  kdegraphics kdegraphics-mobipocket kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer
  kdegraphics-thumbnailers kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins
  kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing
  kdepasswd kdepim kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins
  kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdeplasma-addons kdesdk kdesdk-dolphin-plugins
  kdesdk-kio-plugins kdesdk-misc kdesdk-scripts kdesdk-strigi-plugins kdetoys
  kdeutils kdewallpapers kdewebdev kdf kdiamond kdm kdoctools kfilereplace
  kfind kfourinline kgamma kgeography kgeography-data kget kgoldrunner kgpg
  khangman khelpcenter4 kig kigo killbots kimagemapeditor kinfocenter kiriki
  kjots kjumpingcube klettres klettres-data klickety klines klinkstatus
  klipper kmag kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmines kmix kmousetool kmouth kmplot
  kmtrace knetwalk knode knotes kolf kollision kolourpaint4 kommander kompare
  konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konquest konsole konsolekalendar
  kontact kopete kopete-message-indicator korganizer kpartloader kpat kppp
  krdc kremotecontrol kreversi krfb krosspython kruler ksaneplugin kscd
  kscreensaver kscreensaver-xsavers kshisen ksirk ksnapshot kspaceduel
  ksquares kstars kstars-data ksudoku ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog kteatime
  ktimer ktimetracker ktouch ktouch-data ktron ktuberling kturtle ktux kubrick
  kubuntu-debug-installer kuiviewer kuser kwalletmanager kwordquiz kwrite
  libakonadi-calendar4 libakonadi-contact4 libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4
  libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadi-notes4
  libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libanalitza4abi1 libanalitzagui4abi1 libao4
  libassuan0 libattica0.3 libavogadro1 libblas3gf libboost-graph1.46.1
  libboost-program-options1.46.1 libboost-python1.46.1 libboost-regex1.46.1
  libc6-dbg libcalendarsupport4 libcanberra-pulse libcfitsio3 libcgraph5
  libcln6 libclucene0ldbl libdb4.8 libdbusmenu-qt2 libdiscid0
  libdlrestrictions1 libdmtx0a libdotconf1.0 libespeak1 libeventviews4
  libexiv2-11 libftdi1 libgadu3 libgfortran3 libglew1.5 libgpgme++2 libgpgme11
  libgps20 libgrantlee-core0 libgrantlee-gui0 libgsl0ldbl libgvpr1 libical0
  libincidenceeditorsng4 libindi-data libindi0 libindicate-qt1 libindicate5
  libjpeg-progs libjpeg-turbo-progs libjs-jquery libkabc4 libkactivities-bin
  libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2 libkasten1controllers1 libkasten1core1
  libkasten1gui1 libkasten1okteta1controllers1 libkasten1okteta1core1
  libkasten1okteta1gui1 libkateinterfaces4 libkatepartinterfaces4 libkblog4
  libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkdcraw-data
  libkdcraw20 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4 libkdecore5
  libkdeedu-data libkdegames5a libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkdesu5
  libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdgantt2 libkdnssd4 libkeduvocdocument4
  libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkexiv2-10 libkexiv2-data libkfile4
  libkggzgames4 libkggzmod4 libkggznet4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4
  libkimap4 libkio5 libkipi-data libkipi8 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4
  libkleo4 libkmahjongglib4 libkmanagesieve4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4
  libkmime4 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4
  libkonq-common libkonq5-templates libkonq5abi1 libkonqsidebarplugin4a
  libkontactinterface4 libkopete4 libkparts4 libkpgp4 libkpimidentities4
  libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4
  libkrosscore4 libkrossui4 libksane-data libksane0 libksba8 libkscreensaver5
  libksgrd4 libksieve4 libksieveui4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4
  libktnef4 libktorrent3 libkunitconversion4 libkwineffects1abi3
  libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1 libkxmlrpcclient4
  liblapack3gf libmailcommon4 libmailtransport4 libmarblewidget13
  libmeanwhile1 libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4
  libmessageviewer4 libmicroblog4 libmsn0.3 libmusicbrainz3-6 libnepomuk4
  libnepomukdatamanagement4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4 libnepomukutils4
  libnova-0.12-2 libntrack-qt4-1 libntrack0 libokteta1core1 libokteta1gui1
  libokularcore1abi1 libopenbabel4 libotr2 libphonon4
  libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3 libplasmaclock4abi3
  libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libpoppler-qt4-3 libportaudio2
  libprison0 libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libpth20 libqalculate5
  libqapt-runtime libqapt1 libqca2 libqca2-plugin-ossl libqgpgme1
  libqimageblitz4 libqrencode3 libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-qt3support
  libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test
  libqtassistantclient4 libqtwebkit4 libreadline5 libruby1.8 libsigsegv2
  libsolid4 libsolidcontrol4abi2 libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libsonic0
  libsoprano4 libspeechd2 libssh-4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libsvn1
  libsyndication4 libtaskmanager4abi3 libtemplateparser4 libthreadweaver4
  libtidy-0.99-0 libvirtodbc0 libvncserver0 libweather-ion6 libxml2-utils lirc
  lokalize lskat marble marble-data marble-plugins mysql-client-core-5.5
  mysql-server-core-5.5 ntrack-module-libnl-0 okteta okular optipng
  oxygen-cursor-theme oxygen-icon-theme palapeli palapeli-data parley
  parley-data phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer pinentry-gtk2 pinentry-qt4
  pkg-kde-tools plasma-containments-addons plasma-dataengines-addons
  plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-desktopthemes-artwork
  plasma-netbook plasma-runners-addons plasma-scriptengine-javascript
  plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba plasma-wallpapers-addons
  plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-lancelot
  plasma-widget-message-indicator plasma-widget-networkmanagement
  plasma-widgets-addons plasma-widgets-workspace polkit-kde-1 poxml
  printer-applet python-avogadro python-dateutil python-enchant
  python-iniparse python-kde4 python-levenshtein python-numpy python-openssl
  python-pam python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus python-qt4-sql python-serial
  python-simplejson python-sip python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core
  python-utidylib python-vobject python-zope.interface qapt-batch rdesktop
  rocs ruby ruby1.8 setserial shared-desktop-ontologies soprano-daemon
  speech-dispatcher step subversion svgpart sweeper system-config-printer-kde
  systemsettings tasks-icons translate-toolkit ttf-dustin umbrello valgrind
  virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
  vorbis-tools xplanet xplanet-images xscreensaver-data xscreensaver-gl
Pacchetti suggeriti:
  akonadi-backend-sqlite akonadi-backend-postgresql rar mksh rcs
  docbook-xsl-doc-html docbook-xsl-doc-pdf docbook-xsl-doc-text
  docbook-xsl-doc libsaxon-java libxalan2-java libxslthl-java
  docbook-xsl-saxon fop xalan dbtoepub gdb-doc gdbserver quarry cgoban qgo
  gnupg-doc xloadimage gpsd-clients graphviz-doc libterm-readline-gnu-perl
  libterm-readline-perl-perl k3b kdelibs5-dev kcachegrind-converters calligra
  djvulibre-bin finger skanlite plasma-scriptengines cantor kiten blinken
  kdegames-card-data-extra ffmpegthumbs mplayerthumbs lame perl-doc libqt4-dev
  gimp inkscape xpaint dmalloc kdelibs5-doc qt4-doc devscripts xsltproc
  kleopatra spamassassin bogofilter spambayes bsfilter crm114 clamav procmail
  gnokii texlive-latex-base indi qt4-designer libesd0 libesd-alsa0 libroar1
  libsndio0 roaraudio-server python3 pi exiv2 glew-utils1.5 gpgsm
  gsl-ref-psdoc gsl-doc-pdf gsl-doc-info gsl-ref-html indi-bin
  javascript-common hspell libktorrent-l10n libotr2-bin
  libqca2-plugin-cyrus-sasl libqca2-plugin-gnupg libvncserver0-dbg lirc-x
  okular-extra-backends texlive-binaries qhull-bin phonon-backend-vlc
  phonon-backend-xine phonon-backend-mplayer pinentry-doc cdbs
  network-manager-vpnc network-manager-openvpn python-wxgtk2.6 python-wxgtk2.8
  python-numpy-doc python-numpy-dbg python-nose python-dev gfortran
  python-openssl-doc python-openssl-dbg python-pam-dbg python-qt4-dbg
  python-twisted-bin-dbg python-tk python-qt3 ri ruby-dev ruby1.8-examples
  ri1.8 speech-dispatcher-festival speech-dispatcher-doc-cs libttspico-utils
  speech-dispatcher-flite subversion-tools db4.8-util python-aeidon
  translate-toolkit-dev-doc alleyoop valkyrie xscreensaver
I seguenti pacchetti NUOVI saranno installati:
  advancecomp akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server akregator amor ark
  avogadro-data blogilo bomber bovo cervisia cvs cvsservice docbook-xsl
  dolphin dragonplayer espeak espeak-data filelight fonts-dustin
  freespacenotifier gawk gdb gnugo gnupg-agent gnupg2 gpsd graphviz gwenview
  icoutils jovie juk kaccessible kaddressbook kajongg kalarm kalgebra
  kalgebra-common kalzium kalzium-data kamera kanagram kapman kapptemplate
  kate kate-data katepart katomic kbattleship kblackbox kblocks kbounce
  kbreakout kbruch kcachegrind kcalc kcharselect kcolorchooser kde-baseapps
  kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-config-cddb kde-config-cron kde-full
  kde-plasma-desktop kde-plasma-netbook kde-runtime kde-runtime-data
  kde-standard kde-style-oxygen kde-wallpapers kde-wallpapers-default
  kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin
  kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdeaccessibility kdeadmin
  kdeartwork kdeartwork-emoticons kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-window
  kdeedu kdeedu-kvtml-data kdegames kdegames-card-data kdegames-mahjongg-data
  kdegraphics kdegraphics-mobipocket kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer
  kdegraphics-thumbnailers kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins
  kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing
  kdepasswd kdepim kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins
  kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdeplasma-addons kdesdk kdesdk-dolphin-plugins
  kdesdk-kio-plugins kdesdk-misc kdesdk-scripts kdesdk-strigi-plugins kdetoys
  kdeutils kdewallpapers kdewebdev kdf kdiamond kdm kdoctools kfilereplace
  kfind kfourinline kgamma kgeography kgeography-data kget kgoldrunner kgpg
  khangman khelpcenter4 kig kigo killbots kimagemapeditor kinfocenter kiriki
  kjots kjumpingcube klettres klettres-data klickety klines klinkstatus
  klipper kmag kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmines kmix kmousetool kmouth kmplot
  kmtrace knetwalk knode knotes kolf kollision kolourpaint4 kommander kompare
  konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konquest konsole konsolekalendar
  kontact kopete kopete-message-indicator korganizer kpartloader kpat kppp
  krdc kremotecontrol kreversi krfb krosspython kruler ksaneplugin kscd
  kscreensaver kscreensaver-xsavers kshisen ksirk ksnapshot kspaceduel
  ksquares kstars kstars-data ksudoku ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog kteatime
  ktimer ktimetracker ktouch ktouch-data ktron ktuberling kturtle ktux kubrick
  kubuntu-debug-installer kuiviewer kuser kwalletmanager kwordquiz kwrite
  libakonadi-calendar4 libakonadi-contact4 libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4
  libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadi-notes4
  libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libanalitza4abi1 libanalitzagui4abi1 libao4
  libassuan0 libattica0.3 libavogadro1 libblas3gf libboost-graph1.46.1
  libboost-program-options1.46.1 libboost-python1.46.1 libboost-regex1.46.1
  libc6-dbg libcalendarsupport4 libcanberra-pulse libcfitsio3 libcgraph5
  libcln6 libclucene0ldbl libdb4.8 libdbusmenu-qt2 libdiscid0
  libdlrestrictions1 libdmtx0a libdotconf1.0 libespeak1 libeventviews4
  libexiv2-11 libftdi1 libgadu3 libgfortran3 libglew1.5 libgpgme++2 libgpgme11
  libgps20 libgrantlee-core0 libgrantlee-gui0 libgsl0ldbl libgvpr1 libical0
  libincidenceeditorsng4 libindi-data libindi0 libindicate-qt1 libindicate5
  libjpeg-progs libjpeg-turbo-progs libjs-jquery libkabc4 libkactivities-bin
  libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2 libkasten1controllers1 libkasten1core1
  libkasten1gui1 libkasten1okteta1controllers1 libkasten1okteta1core1
  libkasten1okteta1gui1 libkateinterfaces4 libkatepartinterfaces4 libkblog4
  libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkdcraw-data
  libkdcraw20 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4 libkdecore5
  libkdeedu-data libkdegames5a libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkdesu5
  libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdgantt2 libkdnssd4 libkeduvocdocument4
  libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkexiv2-10 libkexiv2-data libkfile4
  libkggzgames4 libkggzmod4 libkggznet4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4
  libkimap4 libkio5 libkipi-data libkipi8 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4
  libkleo4 libkmahjongglib4 libkmanagesieve4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4
  libkmime4 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4
  libkonq-common libkonq5-templates libkonq5abi1 libkonqsidebarplugin4a
  libkontactinterface4 libkopete4 libkparts4 libkpgp4 libkpimidentities4
  libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4
  libkrosscore4 libkrossui4 libksane-data libksane0 libksba8 libkscreensaver5
  libksgrd4 libksieve4 libksieveui4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4
  libktnef4 libktorrent3 libkunitconversion4 libkwineffects1abi3
  libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1 libkxmlrpcclient4
  liblapack3gf libmailcommon4 libmailtransport4 libmarblewidget13
  libmeanwhile1 libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4
  libmessageviewer4 libmicroblog4 libmsn0.3 libmusicbrainz3-6 libnepomuk4
  libnepomukdatamanagement4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4 libnepomukutils4
  libnova-0.12-2 libntrack-qt4-1 libntrack0 libokteta1core1 libokteta1gui1
  libokularcore1abi1 libopenbabel4 libotr2 libphonon4
  libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3 libplasmaclock4abi3
  libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libpoppler-qt4-3 libportaudio2
  libprison0 libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libpth20 libqalculate5
  libqapt-runtime libqapt1 libqca2 libqca2-plugin-ossl libqgpgme1
  libqimageblitz4 libqrencode3 libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-qt3support
  libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test
  libqtassistantclient4 libqtwebkit4 libreadline5 libruby1.8 libsigsegv2
  libsolid4 libsolidcontrol4abi2 libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libsonic0
  libsoprano4 libspeechd2 libssh-4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libsvn1
  libsyndication4 libtaskmanager4abi3 libtemplateparser4 libthreadweaver4
  libtidy-0.99-0 libvirtodbc0 libvncserver0 libweather-ion6 libxml2-utils lirc
  lokalize lskat marble marble-data marble-plugins mysql-client-core-5.5
  mysql-server-core-5.5 ntrack-module-libnl-0 okteta okular optipng
  oxygen-cursor-theme oxygen-icon-theme palapeli palapeli-data parley
  parley-data phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer pinentry-gtk2 pinentry-qt4
  pkg-kde-tools plasma-containments-addons plasma-dataengines-addons
  plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-desktopthemes-artwork
  plasma-netbook plasma-runners-addons plasma-scriptengine-javascript
  plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba plasma-wallpapers-addons
  plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-lancelot
  plasma-widget-message-indicator plasma-widget-networkmanagement
  plasma-widgets-addons plasma-widgets-workspace polkit-kde-1 poxml
  printer-applet python-avogadro python-dateutil python-enchant
  python-iniparse python-kde4 python-levenshtein python-numpy python-openssl
  python-pam python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus python-qt4-sql python-serial
  python-simplejson python-sip python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core
  python-utidylib python-vobject python-zope.interface qapt-batch rdesktop
  rocs ruby ruby1.8 setserial shared-desktop-ontologies soprano-daemon
  speech-dispatcher step subversion svgpart sweeper system-config-printer-kde
  systemsettings tasks-icons translate-toolkit ttf-dustin umbrello valgrind
  virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
  vorbis-tools xplanet xplanet-images xscreensaver-data xscreensaver-gl
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kubuntu-desktop

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caturen@caturen:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[sudo] password for caturen: 
Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
Generazione albero delle dipendenze       
Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
I seguenti pacchetti saranno inoltre installati:
  acpi-support acpid akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server akregator amarok
  amarok-common amarok-utils anacron app-install-data-partner appmenu-gtk
  appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt apport apport-kde apport-symptoms apturl-kde ark
  avahi-autoipd bluedevil bluez-alsa bluez-cups brltty cdparanoia cdrdao dc
  docbook-xsl dolphin dragonplayer dvd+rw-tools fonts-kacst fonts-kacst-one
  fonts-khmeros-core fonts-lao fonts-nanum fonts-takao-pgothic fonts-thai-tlwg
  fonts-tlwg-garuda fonts-tlwg-kinnari fonts-tlwg-loma fonts-tlwg-mono
  fonts-tlwg-norasi fonts-tlwg-purisa fonts-tlwg-sawasdee
  fonts-tlwg-typewriter fonts-tlwg-typist fonts-tlwg-typo fonts-tlwg-umpush
  fonts-tlwg-waree freespacenotifier gdb ghostscript-x gnupg-agent gnupg2
  gpgsm gpsd growisofs gstreamer0.10-qapt gtk2-engines-oxygen
  gtk3-engines-oxygen gwenview hplip hplip-data ibus-qt4 icoutils inputattach
  k3b k3b-data kaccessible kaddressbook kamera kate kate-data katepart kcalc
  kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-config-gtk kde-config-touchpad
  kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kde-style-oxygen kde-wallpapers-default
  kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin
  kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kde-zeroconf
  kdegames-card-data kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data
  kdelibs5-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kdepasswd
  kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins
  kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdesudo kdm kdoctools kerneloops-daemon khelpcenter4
  kinfocenter klipper kmag kmail kmenuedit kmix kmousetool knotes konsole
  kontact kopete kopete-message-indicator korganizer kpat kppp ksnapshot
  ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog ktorrent ktorrent-data
  kubuntu-debug-installer kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-docs
  kubuntu-firefox-installer kubuntu-netbook-default-settings
  kubuntu-notification-helper kubuntu-web-shortcuts kvkbd kwalletmanager
  language-selector-kde libakonadi-calendar4 libakonadi-contact4
  libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4
  libakonadi-notes4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libassuan0 libattica0.3
  libbluedevil1 libboost-program-options1.46.1 libbrlapi0.5
  libcalendarsupport4 libcanberra-pulse libcln6 libclucene0ldbl libcupsdriver1
  libdbusmenu-qt2 libdebconf-kde0 libdiscid0 libdlrestrictions1 libdmtx0a
  libepub0 libeventviews4 libexiv2-11 libflac++6 libgadu3 libgpgme++2
  libgpgme11 libgpod4-nogtk libgps20 libgrantlee-core0 libibus-qt1 libical0
  libincidenceeditorsng4 libindicate-qt1 libindicate5 libjs-jquery libk3b6
  libkabc4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2 libkateinterfaces4
  libkatepartinterfaces4 libkblog4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4
  libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4
  libkdecore5 libkdegames5a libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkdesu5
  libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdgantt2 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1
  libkexiv2-10 libkexiv2-data libkfile4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4
  libkimap4 libkio5 libkipi-data libkipi8 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4
  libkleo4 libkmanagesieve4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4
  libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkonq-common
  libkonq5-templates libkonq5abi1 libkontactinterface4 libkopete4 libkparts4
  libkpgp4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4
  libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4 libksba8 libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4
  libksieve4 libksieveui4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4 libktnef4
  libktorrent-l10n libktorrent3 libkunitconversion4 libkwineffects1abi3
  libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1 libkxmlrpcclient4
  liblastfm0 libloudmouth1-0 libmailcommon4 libmailtransport4 libmeanwhile1
  libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4 libmessageviewer4
  libmicroblog4 libmsn0.3 libmuonprivate1 libmusicbrainz3-6 libmygpo-qt1
  libnepomuk4 libnepomukdatamanagement4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4
  libnepomukutils4 libntrack-qt4-1 libntrack0 libokularcore1abi1 libotr2
  libphonon4 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3 libplasmaclock4abi3
  libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libpoppler-qt4-3 libprison0
  libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libpth20 libqalculate5 libqapt-runtime
  libqapt1 libqca2 libqca2-plugin-ossl libqgpgme1 libqimageblitz4 libqjson0
  libqrencode3 libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-qt3support
  libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test
  libqtassistantclient4 libqtglib-2.0-0 libqtgstreamer-0.10-0
  libqtscript4-core libqtscript4-gui libqtscript4-network libqtscript4-sql
  libqtscript4-uitools libqtscript4-xml libqtwebkit4 libsane-hpaio libsolid4
  libsolidcontrol4abi2 libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libsoprano4 libspeechd2
  libssh-4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libsyndication4 libtag-extras1
  libtaskmanager4abi3 libtemplateparser4 libthreadweaver4 libvirtodbc0
  libweather-ion6 libxml2-utils libxp6 libzip2 mscompress muon muon-installer
  muon-notifier muon-updater mysql-client-core-5.5 mysql-server-core-5.5
  ntrack-module-libnl-0 obexd-client okular okular-extra-backends
  openprinting-ppds oxygen-cursor-theme oxygen-icon-theme partitionmanager
  pcmciautils phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer pinentry-gtk2 pinentry-qt4
  plasma-dataengines-addons plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop
  plasma-netbook plasma-scriptengine-javascript plasma-scriptengine-python
  plasma-widget-facebook plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-kimpanel
  plasma-widget-menubar plasma-widget-message-indicator
  plasma-widget-networkmanagement plasma-widgets-addons
  plasma-widgets-workspace plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo
  plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text policykit-desktop-privileges polkit-kde-1
  printer-applet printer-driver-c2esp printer-driver-foo2zjs
  printer-driver-hpcups printer-driver-postscript-hp printer-driver-ptouch
  printer-driver-pxljr printer-driver-sag-gdi printer-driver-splix
  pulseaudio-module-bluetooth python-apport python-crypto python-httplib2
  python-imaging python-kde4 python-keyring python-launchpadlib
  python-lazr.restfulclient python-lazr.uri python-oauth python-pexpect
  python-problem-report python-pyudev python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus
  python-renderpm python-reportlab python-reportlab-accel python-simplejson
  python-sip python-wadllib python-zope.interface qapt-batch
  qapt-deb-installer quassel quassel-data radeontool rekonq rfkill sane-utils
  shared-desktop-ontologies software-properties-kde soprano-daemon
  system-config-printer-kde systemsettings tasks-icons toshset
  ttf-indic-fonts-core ttf-punjabi-fonts ttf-wqy-microhei
  ubuntu-extras-keyring update-manager-kde usb-creator-kde userconfig
  virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
  wodim xcursor-themes xdg-user-dirs xsettings-kde
Pacchetti suggeriti:
  akonadi-backend-sqlite akonadi-backend-postgresql libxine1-ffmpeg
  libqt4-sql-psql moodbar rar brltty-speechd brltty-x11 console-braille
  docbook-xsl-doc-html docbook-xsl-doc-pdf docbook-xsl-doc-text
  docbook-xsl-doc libsaxon-java libxalan2-java libxslthl-java
  docbook-xsl-saxon fop xalan dbtoepub kdesdk-dolphin-plugins kfind ruby
  kompare cdrskin gdb-doc gdbserver gnupg-doc xloadimage gpsd-clients
  kde-config-gtk-style svgpart hplip-gui hplip-doc system-config-printer
  libterm-readline-gnu-perl libterm-readline-perl-perl k3b-extrathemes
  normalize-audio sox movixmaker-2 libk3b6-extracodecs vcdimager djvulibre-bin
  finger plasma-scriptengines kde-wallpapers kdegames-card-data-extra lame
  kleopatra spamassassin bogofilter spambayes bsfilter crm114 clamav procmail
  gnokii kjots ktimetracker knode kdeartwork-emoticons texlive-latex-base
  plasma-widget-ktorrent krosspython pi exiv2 libgpod-common javascript-common
  hspell libotr2-bin libqca2-plugin-cyrus-sasl libqca2-plugin-gnupg libqt4-dev
  texlive-binaries jovie hpijs-ppds reiser4progs xfsprogs jfsutils ntfsprogs
  hfsutils hfsplus phonon-backend-vlc phonon-backend-xine
  phonon-backend-mplayer pinentry-doc network-manager-vpnc
  network-manager-openvpn plasma-widget-lancelot psutils hannah-foo2zjs tk8.4
  tix python-crypto-dbg python-crypto-doc python-imaging-doc
  python-imaging-dbg python-testresources python-pyside.qtcore python-qt4-dbg
  python-renderpm-dbg python-egenix-mxtexttools python-reportlab-doc kget
  unpaper x-ttcidfont-conf cdrkit-doc
Pacchetti raccomandati:
  jockey-kde libreoffice-kde libreoffice-style-oxygen
I seguenti pacchetti NUOVI saranno installati:
  acpi-support acpid akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server akregator amarok
  amarok-common amarok-utils anacron app-install-data-partner appmenu-gtk
  appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt apport apport-kde apport-symptoms apturl-kde ark
  avahi-autoipd bluedevil bluez-alsa bluez-cups brltty cdparanoia cdrdao dc
  docbook-xsl dolphin dragonplayer dvd+rw-tools fonts-kacst fonts-kacst-one
  fonts-khmeros-core fonts-lao fonts-nanum fonts-takao-pgothic fonts-thai-tlwg
  fonts-tlwg-garuda fonts-tlwg-kinnari fonts-tlwg-loma fonts-tlwg-mono
  fonts-tlwg-norasi fonts-tlwg-purisa fonts-tlwg-sawasdee
  fonts-tlwg-typewriter fonts-tlwg-typist fonts-tlwg-typo fonts-tlwg-umpush
  fonts-tlwg-waree freespacenotifier gdb ghostscript-x gnupg-agent gnupg2
  gpgsm gpsd growisofs gstreamer0.10-qapt gtk2-engines-oxygen
  gtk3-engines-oxygen gwenview hplip hplip-data ibus-qt4 icoutils inputattach
  k3b k3b-data kaccessible kaddressbook kamera kate kate-data katepart kcalc
  kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-config-gtk kde-config-touchpad
  kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kde-style-oxygen kde-wallpapers-default
  kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin
  kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kde-zeroconf
  kdegames-card-data kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data
  kdelibs5-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kdepasswd
  kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins
  kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdesudo kdm kdoctools kerneloops-daemon khelpcenter4
  kinfocenter klipper kmag kmail kmenuedit kmix kmousetool knotes konsole
  kontact kopete kopete-message-indicator korganizer kpat kppp ksnapshot
  ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog ktorrent ktorrent-data
  kubuntu-debug-installer kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-desktop
  kubuntu-docs kubuntu-firefox-installer kubuntu-netbook-default-settings
  kubuntu-notification-helper kubuntu-web-shortcuts kvkbd kwalletmanager
  language-selector-kde libakonadi-calendar4 libakonadi-contact4
  libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4
  libakonadi-notes4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libassuan0 libattica0.3
  libbluedevil1 libboost-program-options1.46.1 libbrlapi0.5
  libcalendarsupport4 libcanberra-pulse libcln6 libclucene0ldbl libcupsdriver1
  libdbusmenu-qt2 libdebconf-kde0 libdiscid0 libdlrestrictions1 libdmtx0a
  libepub0 libeventviews4 libexiv2-11 libflac++6 libgadu3 libgpgme++2
  libgpgme11 libgpod4-nogtk libgps20 libgrantlee-core0 libibus-qt1 libical0
  libincidenceeditorsng4 libindicate-qt1 libindicate5 libjs-jquery libk3b6
  libkabc4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2 libkateinterfaces4
  libkatepartinterfaces4 libkblog4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4
  libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4
  libkdecore5 libkdegames5a libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkdesu5
  libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdgantt2 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1
  libkexiv2-10 libkexiv2-data libkfile4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4
  libkimap4 libkio5 libkipi-data libkipi8 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4
  libkleo4 libkmanagesieve4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4
  libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkonq-common
  libkonq5-templates libkonq5abi1 libkontactinterface4 libkopete4 libkparts4
  libkpgp4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4
  libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4 libksba8 libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4
  libksieve4 libksieveui4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4 libktnef4
  libktorrent-l10n libktorrent3 libkunitconversion4 libkwineffects1abi3
  libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1 libkxmlrpcclient4
  liblastfm0 libloudmouth1-0 libmailcommon4 libmailtransport4 libmeanwhile1
  libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4 libmessageviewer4
  libmicroblog4 libmsn0.3 libmuonprivate1 libmusicbrainz3-6 libmygpo-qt1
  libnepomuk4 libnepomukdatamanagement4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4
  libnepomukutils4 libntrack-qt4-1 libntrack0 libokularcore1abi1 libotr2
  libphonon4 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3 libplasmaclock4abi3
  libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libpoppler-qt4-3 libprison0
  libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libpth20 libqalculate5 libqapt-runtime
  libqapt1 libqca2 libqca2-plugin-ossl libqgpgme1 libqimageblitz4 libqjson0
  libqrencode3 libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-qt3support
  libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test
  libqtassistantclient4 libqtglib-2.0-0 libqtgstreamer-0.10-0
  libqtscript4-core libqtscript4-gui libqtscript4-network libqtscript4-sql
  libqtscript4-uitools libqtscript4-xml libqtwebkit4 libsane-hpaio libsolid4
  libsolidcontrol4abi2 libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libsoprano4 libspeechd2
  libssh-4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libsyndication4 libtag-extras1
  libtaskmanager4abi3 libtemplateparser4 libthreadweaver4 libvirtodbc0
  libweather-ion6 libxml2-utils libxp6 libzip2 mscompress muon muon-installer
  muon-notifier muon-updater mysql-client-core-5.5 mysql-server-core-5.5
  ntrack-module-libnl-0 obexd-client okular okular-extra-backends
  openprinting-ppds oxygen-cursor-theme oxygen-icon-theme partitionmanager
  pcmciautils phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer pinentry-gtk2 pinentry-qt4
  plasma-dataengines-addons plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop
  plasma-netbook plasma-scriptengine-javascript plasma-scriptengine-python
  plasma-widget-facebook plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-kimpanel
  plasma-widget-menubar plasma-widget-message-indicator
  plasma-widget-networkmanagement plasma-widgets-addons
  plasma-widgets-workspace plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo
  plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text policykit-desktop-privileges polkit-kde-1
  printer-applet printer-driver-c2esp printer-driver-foo2zjs
  printer-driver-hpcups printer-driver-postscript-hp printer-driver-ptouch
  printer-driver-pxljr printer-driver-sag-gdi printer-driver-splix
  pulseaudio-module-bluetooth python-apport python-crypto python-httplib2
  python-imaging python-kde4 python-keyring python-launchpadlib
  python-lazr.restfulclient python-lazr.uri python-oauth python-pexpect
  python-problem-report python-pyudev python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus
  python-renderpm python-reportlab python-reportlab-accel python-simplejson
  python-sip python-wadllib python-zope.interface qapt-batch
  qapt-deb-installer quassel quassel-data radeontool rekonq rfkill sane-utils
  shared-desktop-ontologies software-properties-kde soprano-daemon
  system-config-printer-kde systemsettings tasks-icons toshset
  ttf-indic-fonts-core ttf-punjabi-fonts ttf-wqy-microhei
  ubuntu-extras-keyring update-manager-kde usb-creator-kde userconfig
  virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
  wodim xcursor-themes xdg-user-dirs xsettings-kde
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cioè il meta pacchetto ha 158 mg di pacchetti in più. Questo su precise con mate come DE

sempre evitati in favore del piu minimale plasma-desktop

infatti è molto più "leggero"

Codice: Seleziona tutto

caturen@caturen:~$ sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop
[sudo] password for caturen: 
Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
Generazione albero delle dipendenze       
Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
I seguenti pacchetti saranno inoltre installati:
  akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server docbook-xsl freespacenotifier gpsd
  icoutils kate-data katepart kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kde-style-oxygen
  kde-wallpapers-default kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common
  kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data
  kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins
  kdepim-runtime kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdm kdoctools kinfocenter klipper
  kmenuedit ksysguard ksysguardd kubuntu-debug-installer libakonadi-calendar4
  libakonadi-contact4 libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4
  libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadi-notes4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1
  libattica0.3 libboost-program-options1.46.1 libcanberra-pulse libcln6
  libclucene0ldbl libdbusmenu-qt2 libdlrestrictions1 libdmtx0a libexiv2-11
  libgps20 libical0 libkabc4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2
  libkatepartinterfaces4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcmutils4
  libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4 libkdecore5 libkdesu5
  libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkfile4
  libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkimap4 libkio5 libkjsapi4
  libkjsembed4 libkldap4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4 libknewstuff3-4
  libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkparts4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4
  libkpimutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4 libkscreensaver5
  libksgrd4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4 libkunitconversion4
  libkwineffects1abi3 libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1
  libmailtransport4 libmicroblog4 libnepomuk4 libnepomukdatamanagement4
  libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4 libnepomukutils4 libntrack-qt4-1
  libntrack0 libphonon4 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3
  libplasmaclock4abi3 libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libprison0
  libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libqalculate5 libqapt-runtime libqapt1
  libqca2 libqimageblitz4 libqrencode3 libqt4-designer libqt4-qt3support
  libqt4-svg libqtwebkit4 libsolid4 libsolidcontrol4abi2
  libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libsoprano4 libssh-4 libstreamanalyzer0
  libstreams0 libsyndication4 libtaskmanager4abi3 libthreadweaver4
  libvirtodbc0 libweather-ion6 libxml2-utils mysql-client-core-5.5
  mysql-server-core-5.5 ntrack-module-libnl-0 oxygen-cursor-theme
  oxygen-icon-theme phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer
  plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-scriptengine-javascript
  plasma-widgets-workspace qapt-batch shared-desktop-ontologies soprano-daemon
  systemsettings virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin
  virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
Pacchetti suggeriti:
  akonadi-backend-sqlite akonadi-backend-postgresql docbook-xsl-doc-html
  docbook-xsl-doc-pdf docbook-xsl-doc-text docbook-xsl-doc libsaxon-java
  libxalan2-java libxslthl-java docbook-xsl-saxon fop xalan dbtoepub
  gpsd-clients libterm-readline-gnu-perl libterm-readline-perl-perl
  djvulibre-bin finger plasma-scriptengines kde-wallpapers kdepasswd pi exiv2
  hspell libqca2-plugin-cyrus-sasl libqca2-plugin-gnupg libqca2-plugin-ossl
  phonon-backend-vlc phonon-backend-xine phonon-backend-mplayer
I seguenti pacchetti NUOVI saranno installati:
  akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server docbook-xsl freespacenotifier gpsd
  icoutils kate-data katepart kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kde-style-oxygen
  kde-wallpapers-default kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common
  kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data
  kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins
  kdepim-runtime kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdm kdoctools kinfocenter klipper
  kmenuedit ksysguard ksysguardd kubuntu-debug-installer libakonadi-calendar4
  libakonadi-contact4 libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4
  libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadi-notes4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1
  libattica0.3 libboost-program-options1.46.1 libcanberra-pulse libcln6
  libclucene0ldbl libdbusmenu-qt2 libdlrestrictions1 libdmtx0a libexiv2-11
  libgps20 libical0 libkabc4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2
  libkatepartinterfaces4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcmutils4
  libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4 libkdecore5 libkdesu5
  libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkfile4
  libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkimap4 libkio5 libkjsapi4
  libkjsembed4 libkldap4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4 libknewstuff3-4
  libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkparts4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4
  libkpimutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4 libkscreensaver5
  libksgrd4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4 libkunitconversion4
  libkwineffects1abi3 libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1
  libmailtransport4 libmicroblog4 libnepomuk4 libnepomukdatamanagement4
  libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4 libnepomukutils4 libntrack-qt4-1
  libntrack0 libphonon4 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3
  libplasmaclock4abi3 libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libprison0
  libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libqalculate5 libqapt-runtime libqapt1
  libqca2 libqimageblitz4 libqrencode3 libqt4-designer libqt4-qt3support
  libqt4-svg libqtwebkit4 libsolid4 libsolidcontrol4abi2
  libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libsoprano4 libssh-4 libstreamanalyzer0
  libstreams0 libsyndication4 libtaskmanager4abi3 libthreadweaver4
  libvirtodbc0 libweather-ion6 libxml2-utils mysql-client-core-5.5
  mysql-server-core-5.5 ntrack-module-libnl-0 oxygen-cursor-theme
  oxygen-icon-theme phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer
  plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-scriptengine-javascript
  plasma-widgets-workspace qapt-batch shared-desktop-ontologies soprano-daemon
  systemsettings virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin
  virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
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cioè quasi 200 mb in meno di kde-full

[Toshio]

Dalla wiki:
kde-full è un metapacchetto che oltre a installare i pacchetti sopra citati riferiti a kde-plasma-desktop, installa anche i seguenti pacchetti di KDE4
A me sembra di capire che "full" comprenda "desktop".

Quindi... come dice la wiki? Confermato?

[develop]

Dalla wiki:
kde-full è un metapacchetto che oltre a installare i pacchetti sopra citati riferiti a kde-plasma-desktop, installa anche i seguenti pacchetti di KDE4
A me sembra di capire che "full" comprenda "desktop".

Quindi... come dice la wiki? Confermato?

vi posso dire che io ho installato la versione full e non comprende la versione desktop per quanto riguarda KDE

[caturen]

Dalla wiki:
kde-full è un metapacchetto che oltre a installare i pacchetti sopra citati riferiti a kde-plasma-desktop, installa anche i seguenti pacchetti di KDE4
A me sembra di capire che "full" comprenda "desktop".

Quindi... come dice la wiki? Confermato?

quello che installano quei pacchetti lo si può ben vedere negli output sopra. Cosa intendi con

full" comprenda "desktop".

[ale multimediale]

Stando al trova del browser il meta pachetto kde-plasma-desktop viene installato nell'installazione di kde-full ..Mentre nell'installazione di kubuntu-desktop no..Kubuntu desktop comprende pacchetti denominati kubuntu (ce ne uno pure per firefox) che non ha kde-full..In pratica da quello che ho capito kubuntu-desktop è un meta pacchetto che installa una selezione di pacchetti personalizzata per kubuntu che comprende anche pacchetti di temi e altro..Ad esempio update-manager-kde c'è solo nel pacchetto kubuntu-desktop..Quindi aveva ragione caturen,per avere kubuntu avresti dovuto installare kubuntu-desktop..

Il pacchetto kde-full invece dovrebbe installare gli stessi pacchetti che vengono installati anche su altre distro quando si va a installare quel meta pacchetto,ad esempio debian https://wiki.debian.org/it/KDE

[caturen]

installa una selezione di pacchetti personalizzata per kubuntu che comprende anche pacchetti di temi e altro

non ci vuole mica una cima per capirlo: altrimenti perchè si chiama kubuntu-desktop?

Il pacchetto kde-full invece dovrebbe installare gli stessi pacchetti che vengono installati anche su altre distro quando si va a installare quel meta pacchetto

pressappoco dovrebbe essere così. Però credo che ogni distro "customizzi"quello che per lei è kde e quindi penso che i pacchetti variano da distro a distro. Forse.

[ale multimediale]

non ci vuole mica una cima per capirlo: altrimenti perchè si chiama kubuntu-desktop?

No,non è cosi semplice e l'esempio lo è proprio l'update-manager che viene installato con kubuntu-desktop ma non con kde-full....Infatti update manager non è presente nei repo di ad esempio debian su cui non si puo installare ma è una esclusiva solo kubuntu/ubuntu,anche se poi non viene denominato kubuntu-update-manager..E cosi sara pure per altri programmi...

Però credo che ogni distro "customizzi"quello che per lei è kde e quindi penso che i pacchetti variano da distro a distro. Forse.

Di pacchetti custom sempre per debian c'è kde-standard,come dice la wiki di debian...Per kde-full dice :

La versione standard/originale.

[caturen]

No,non è cosi semplice e l'esempio lo è proprio l'update-manager che viene installato con kubuntu-desktop ma non con kde-full....Infatti update manager non è presente nei repo di ad esempio debian su cui non si puo installare ma è una esclusiva solo kubuntu/ubuntu,anche se poi non viene denominato kubuntu-update-manager..E cosi sara pure per altri programmi...

non conosco benissimo kde, ma credo che non esista un software "proprio" di kde atto agli aggiornamenti ed ogni distro usa un suo proprio: debian ha apper , ubuntu ha muon, mangiaro ha octopi,ecc. L'update-manager viene installato con kubuntu-desktop proprio perchè fa parte delle customizzazioni di ubuntu perchè

Support modules for Muon Notifier and Apper to check for new distro releases
and download the dist-upgrade tool.

In debian il passaggio alla nuova stable si fa in maniera diversa.

[Toshio]

La mia era una domanda, cercavo di capire perchè avevo la sensazione che si stessero dicendo cose un po' diverse dalla wiki.
Riassumendo
Matrioska dalla più grande alla più piccola: kubuntu-desktop, kde-full, kde-plasma-desktop
Ritornando alla domanda di develop per avere kde come se si fosse installato direttamente Kubuntu bisogna installare kde-desktop. Se si installa solo kde-full come lui ha fatto non si ha un kde completo e mancano appunto i pacchetti indicati sopra.
Cosa comporta esattamente e se comporta problemi non lo so.

e l'esempio lo è proprio l'update-manager che viene installato con kubuntu-desktop ma non con kde-full....

Quindi installando solo kde-full si avrebbe un sistema "ibrido", per esempio tra le altre cose il sistema continuerebbe ad utilizzare l'update-manager di ubuntu.
Confermate? Ma soprattuttto essendo ibrido darà problemi/conflitti? Oppure è previsto che uno con ubuntu unity installi solo kde-full e va bene così, e cioè la mancanza di quei pacchetti (quelli "in più" derivanti da kubuntu-desktop) viene sopperita da quelli preinstallati con unity?

[caturen]

se uno ha unity non ha molto senso installare kde, qualunque esso sia. A me che non usi una sessione apposita per quel DE. Usarlo nello stesso utente che usa unkity non penso sia una buona cosa.

Ritornando alla domanda di develop per avere kde come se si fosse installato direttamente Kubuntu bisogna installare kde-desktop.

no, bisogna installare kubuntu-desktop altrimenti non si avranno le stesse cose di kubuntu.

[Toshio]

no, bisogna installare kubuntu-desktop altrimenti non si avranno le stesse cose di kubuntu.

Si intendevo kubuntu-desktop, ho corretto sopra, kde-desktop neanche esiste, esistono poi gl'altri due citati.

Usarlo nello stesso utente che usa unity non penso sia una buona cosa.

Dal primo post di develop pare che lui abbia appunto installato kde-full, non ha specificato se utilizza due utenti, uno per unity mantenendolo e uno per kde oppure abbia "sovrapposto". Tu comunque pensi che se fosse "sovrapposto" nascerebbero conflitti.
Mi chiedevo infatti

Oppure è previsto che uno con ubuntu unity installi solo kde-full e va bene così

e cioè se questa versione "non-completa" (rispetto kubuntu-desktop) fosse proprio ideata per essere installata in quel modo.

[caturen]

mettere insieme DE così differenti nello stesso utente si rischia di fare una macedonia dal gusto indigesto. Poi, per carità, potrebbero anche convivere benissimo, ma io non lo farei di certo

found very useful installing several desktop environments but creating separated accounts to use them. I have installed Ubuntu 12.04. For example: - I have the default Ubuntu 12.04 Unity Desktop under the default user account "mauricio". This account is my Unity Desktop. But then I wanted to have a GnomeShell desktop and, - I installed Gnome-Shell and created a new user account with name "VenGshell" and I use Gnome-shell there and configure the whole account with Gnome-shell. So my Unity preferences in my Unity desktop have nothing to do in this Gnome-Shell account, Get it? - Then I wanted to have a KDE desktop in this same Ubuntu installation. So I installed the Kubuntu-Desktop and created another user account under the name of "MaVriK". And I configure it to use KDE desktop environment and, of course again, It is completely apart and nothing to do with the other desktop customizations.

This kind of configuration is, IMHO, the best way to have every desktop environment living together under the same Linux installation.

So: - If I want to use Unity: I login under "mauricio". - If I want to use Gnome-Shell: I login to "VenGShell". - If I want to use KDE: I login to "MavriK"

That easy.

I never ever have any performance issues under this configuration, in any desktop environment.

About applications all showing in the Apps menu? I just do not really care about it! because for that task there are the panels. I have access to my prefered apps I use to use daily in those panels, I just add the app icons there and forget about app menus. And if I want to launch an app in particular, there is Gnome-Do to easily "DO" that task!

[Toshio]

mettere insieme DE così differenti nello stesso utente si rischia di fare una macedonia dal gusto indigesto...

E questo mi era chiaro (già sentito) e per quanto mi riguarda faccio pure una partizione separata utilizzo in live o su macchina virtuale per utilizzare/"provare" diversi DE, e buona notte.
Infatti la mia era un'ipotesi che il pacchetto kde-full fosse ideato per essere sovrapposto installato su ubuntu/unity e chiedevo in tal senso.
Sorge la domanda: a cosa dovrebbe servire questo pacchetto, visto che la cosa "migliore" è comunque installare il più completo kubuntu-desktop con un utente "separato"? Quando e in quali situazioni è utile installarlo?

[ale multimediale]

Io son convinto che sto kde-full sia una selezione di pacchetti fatta per ubuntu e per altri SO come ad esempio debian..Un meta-pacchetto standard (come dice la wiki di debian)che installa sui vari SO gli stessi programmi..Che poi le librerie siano diverse e piu compatibili con il SO a cui lo si va installare,ok..
Quindi io la vedo cosi
kde-full=pacchetto standard per tutti i SO
kubuntu-desktop=kubuntu e tutti i suoi programmi,una selezione creata apposta per essere installata su ubuntu
kde-plasma-desktop=come kde-full una selezione minimale dell'indispensabiule per tutti i SO..Minimale è minimale palsma-desktop,una volta installato e avviato non si ha neppure konsole,dolphin,kmix ecc..Proprio per lasciar la scelta all'utente quale file manager o terminale ecc.. usare..Se fai un "dual DE" con unity potresti installare questo pacchetto e usare nautilus e gnome-terminal,ad esempio

[caturen]

There are different packages to be installed to acquire Kubuntu from an Ubuntu installation depending on which packages you want. Below are the three possible choices, or "routes", to go down; the packages below are metapackages -- they depend upon other, "real", packages, and with their installation they pull them in. For details on package installation methods, see the wiki page InstallingSoftware. The options are as follows:

(i) kubuntu-desktop -- This is the recommended metapackage to install; the full Kubuntu installation, with all the Kubuntu recommended packages. This includes LibreOffice, Kontact, Konversation, Amarok, K3B, and others.

(ii) kde-full -- This will install the following KDE packages: kdegames, kdeaccessibility, kdeplasma-addons, kdeadmin, kdeartwork, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdesdk, kdeutils, kdewebdev, and the kde-plasma-desktop metapackage (see details below).

(iii) kde-plasma-desktop --- This will install the core -- the bare-minimum required-- of KDE. That is, kdebase-apps, kdebase-runtime, kdebase-workspace and kdm.

If you choose to not install kubuntu-desktop, then you can still get all the Kubuntu-specific tweaks by installing the kubuntu-default-settings package. For users with GTK applications, you will need the kde-config-gtk-style and/or gtk3-engines-oxygen package(s) installed, if they aren't already, for proper integration.

essendo dei meta pacchetti è canonical che decide quali siano i pacchetti che sono inglobati. Per come l'ho capita io kde-full è tutto l' insieme dei pacchetti disponibili per kde, però senza nessuna "personalizzazione" di canonical. Ci potrebbero essere pure dei software che non vengono inclusi in kubuntu. In kubuntu ci sono, in parte o tutti questi pacchetti più tutti i temi, icone e settaggi vari per il prodotto finito chiamato kubuntu. Per vedere poi nello specifico che cosa si installa dando i tre diversi comandi basta andare a spulciare quello che ho scritto sopra. Oppure
http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/kde/kde-full
http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/kubuntu-desktop
http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/plasma-desktop