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[Risolto] Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: giovedì 21 maggio 2015, 10:36
da develop
Il mio pinguino è dotato di Ubuntu con Kde come DE (installato Ubuntu, fatto gli aggiornamenti e poi da terminale: sudo apt-get install kde-full).
Prima lavoravo con Ubuntu e Unity (diciamo, la versione "default") poi ho voluto provare Kde senza installare Kubuntu.
Ma qual è la differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde?
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: giovedì 21 maggio 2015, 11:02
da ale multimediale
Sostanzialmente nessuna differenza..Kubuntu è ubuntu con DE kde e i programmi in qt di kde preinstallati che ti installa anche kde-full..Quindi se hai rimoso completamente unity e i suoi programmi si puo dire che ora hai kubuntu come se fosse stato installato "normalmente"
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: giovedì 21 maggio 2015, 18:55
da jackynet92
sposto al bar.
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: giovedì 21 maggio 2015, 20:56
da caturen
Non penso sia così. Lo sarebbe se avesse installato il meta pacchetto kubuntu-desktop, ma installando kde-full ha installato si tutto il "sistema kde" ma non ha installato tutti i pacchetti che fanno la "personalizzazione" kubuntu
Per avere un'installazione completa dell'ambiente grafico KDE4 installare il pacchetto kde-full. ...
Per installare tutti i pacchetti contenuti nel CD di Kubuntu Installare il metapacchetto kubuntu-desktop.
http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmbienteGrafi ... azioneKde4
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: giovedì 21 maggio 2015, 23:04
da ale multimediale
La differenza precisa tra i due pacchetti non la so ma pare che comunque installino piu o meno lo stesso numero di pacchetti
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239653 qui dice che kde-full installato subito dopo una mini.iso installa addirittura piu pacchetti di kubuntu-desktop mentre se lo si vuole installare a fianco ad esempio unity è l'inverso..Non mi dispiacerebbe fare chiarezza definitiva su sta cosa ma questo è il poco che trovo in giro sul web per quanto riguarda l'installazione su ubuntu...
Quello che ho capito pero è che entrambi i pacchetti installano un pacco di roba e cosi gli ho sempre evitati in favore del piu minimale plasma-desktop
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: giovedì 21 maggio 2015, 23:52
da caturen
ecco la differenza:
kde-full
Codice: Seleziona tutto
caturen@caturen:~$ sudo apt-get install kde-full
[sudo] password for caturen:
Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
Generazione albero delle dipendenze
Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
I seguenti pacchetti saranno inoltre installati:
advancecomp akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server akregator amor ark
avogadro-data blogilo bomber bovo cervisia cvs cvsservice docbook-xsl
dolphin dragonplayer espeak espeak-data filelight fonts-dustin
freespacenotifier gawk gdb gnugo gnupg-agent gnupg2 gpsd graphviz gwenview
icoutils jovie juk kaccessible kaddressbook kajongg kalarm kalgebra
kalgebra-common kalzium kalzium-data kamera kanagram kapman kapptemplate
kate kate-data katepart katomic kbattleship kblackbox kblocks kbounce
kbreakout kbruch kcachegrind kcalc kcharselect kcolorchooser kde-baseapps
kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-config-cddb kde-config-cron
kde-plasma-desktop kde-plasma-netbook kde-runtime kde-runtime-data
kde-standard kde-style-oxygen kde-wallpapers kde-wallpapers-default
kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin
kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdeaccessibility kdeadmin
kdeartwork kdeartwork-emoticons kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-window
kdeedu kdeedu-kvtml-data kdegames kdegames-card-data kdegames-mahjongg-data
kdegraphics kdegraphics-mobipocket kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer
kdegraphics-thumbnailers kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins
kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing
kdepasswd kdepim kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins
kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdeplasma-addons kdesdk kdesdk-dolphin-plugins
kdesdk-kio-plugins kdesdk-misc kdesdk-scripts kdesdk-strigi-plugins kdetoys
kdeutils kdewallpapers kdewebdev kdf kdiamond kdm kdoctools kfilereplace
kfind kfourinline kgamma kgeography kgeography-data kget kgoldrunner kgpg
khangman khelpcenter4 kig kigo killbots kimagemapeditor kinfocenter kiriki
kjots kjumpingcube klettres klettres-data klickety klines klinkstatus
klipper kmag kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmines kmix kmousetool kmouth kmplot
kmtrace knetwalk knode knotes kolf kollision kolourpaint4 kommander kompare
konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konquest konsole konsolekalendar
kontact kopete kopete-message-indicator korganizer kpartloader kpat kppp
krdc kremotecontrol kreversi krfb krosspython kruler ksaneplugin kscd
kscreensaver kscreensaver-xsavers kshisen ksirk ksnapshot kspaceduel
ksquares kstars kstars-data ksudoku ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog kteatime
ktimer ktimetracker ktouch ktouch-data ktron ktuberling kturtle ktux kubrick
kubuntu-debug-installer kuiviewer kuser kwalletmanager kwordquiz kwrite
libakonadi-calendar4 libakonadi-contact4 libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4
libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadi-notes4
libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libanalitza4abi1 libanalitzagui4abi1 libao4
libassuan0 libattica0.3 libavogadro1 libblas3gf libboost-graph1.46.1
libboost-program-options1.46.1 libboost-python1.46.1 libboost-regex1.46.1
libc6-dbg libcalendarsupport4 libcanberra-pulse libcfitsio3 libcgraph5
libcln6 libclucene0ldbl libdb4.8 libdbusmenu-qt2 libdiscid0
libdlrestrictions1 libdmtx0a libdotconf1.0 libespeak1 libeventviews4
libexiv2-11 libftdi1 libgadu3 libgfortran3 libglew1.5 libgpgme++2 libgpgme11
libgps20 libgrantlee-core0 libgrantlee-gui0 libgsl0ldbl libgvpr1 libical0
libincidenceeditorsng4 libindi-data libindi0 libindicate-qt1 libindicate5
libjpeg-progs libjpeg-turbo-progs libjs-jquery libkabc4 libkactivities-bin
libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2 libkasten1controllers1 libkasten1core1
libkasten1gui1 libkasten1okteta1controllers1 libkasten1okteta1core1
libkasten1okteta1gui1 libkateinterfaces4 libkatepartinterfaces4 libkblog4
libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkdcraw-data
libkdcraw20 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4 libkdecore5
libkdeedu-data libkdegames5a libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkdesu5
libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdgantt2 libkdnssd4 libkeduvocdocument4
libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkexiv2-10 libkexiv2-data libkfile4
libkggzgames4 libkggzmod4 libkggznet4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4
libkimap4 libkio5 libkipi-data libkipi8 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4
libkleo4 libkmahjongglib4 libkmanagesieve4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4
libkmime4 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4
libkonq-common libkonq5-templates libkonq5abi1 libkonqsidebarplugin4a
libkontactinterface4 libkopete4 libkparts4 libkpgp4 libkpimidentities4
libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4
libkrosscore4 libkrossui4 libksane-data libksane0 libksba8 libkscreensaver5
libksgrd4 libksieve4 libksieveui4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4
libktnef4 libktorrent3 libkunitconversion4 libkwineffects1abi3
libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1 libkxmlrpcclient4
liblapack3gf libmailcommon4 libmailtransport4 libmarblewidget13
libmeanwhile1 libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4
libmessageviewer4 libmicroblog4 libmsn0.3 libmusicbrainz3-6 libnepomuk4
libnepomukdatamanagement4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4 libnepomukutils4
libnova-0.12-2 libntrack-qt4-1 libntrack0 libokteta1core1 libokteta1gui1
libokularcore1abi1 libopenbabel4 libotr2 libphonon4
libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3 libplasmaclock4abi3
libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libpoppler-qt4-3 libportaudio2
libprison0 libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libpth20 libqalculate5
libqapt-runtime libqapt1 libqca2 libqca2-plugin-ossl libqgpgme1
libqimageblitz4 libqrencode3 libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-qt3support
libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test
libqtassistantclient4 libqtwebkit4 libreadline5 libruby1.8 libsigsegv2
libsolid4 libsolidcontrol4abi2 libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libsonic0
libsoprano4 libspeechd2 libssh-4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libsvn1
libsyndication4 libtaskmanager4abi3 libtemplateparser4 libthreadweaver4
libtidy-0.99-0 libvirtodbc0 libvncserver0 libweather-ion6 libxml2-utils lirc
lokalize lskat marble marble-data marble-plugins mysql-client-core-5.5
mysql-server-core-5.5 ntrack-module-libnl-0 okteta okular optipng
oxygen-cursor-theme oxygen-icon-theme palapeli palapeli-data parley
parley-data phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer pinentry-gtk2 pinentry-qt4
pkg-kde-tools plasma-containments-addons plasma-dataengines-addons
plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-desktopthemes-artwork
plasma-netbook plasma-runners-addons plasma-scriptengine-javascript
plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba plasma-wallpapers-addons
plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-lancelot
plasma-widget-message-indicator plasma-widget-networkmanagement
plasma-widgets-addons plasma-widgets-workspace polkit-kde-1 poxml
printer-applet python-avogadro python-dateutil python-enchant
python-iniparse python-kde4 python-levenshtein python-numpy python-openssl
python-pam python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus python-qt4-sql python-serial
python-simplejson python-sip python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core
python-utidylib python-vobject python-zope.interface qapt-batch rdesktop
rocs ruby ruby1.8 setserial shared-desktop-ontologies soprano-daemon
speech-dispatcher step subversion svgpart sweeper system-config-printer-kde
systemsettings tasks-icons translate-toolkit ttf-dustin umbrello valgrind
virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
vorbis-tools xplanet xplanet-images xscreensaver-data xscreensaver-gl
Pacchetti suggeriti:
akonadi-backend-sqlite akonadi-backend-postgresql rar mksh rcs
docbook-xsl-doc-html docbook-xsl-doc-pdf docbook-xsl-doc-text
docbook-xsl-doc libsaxon-java libxalan2-java libxslthl-java
docbook-xsl-saxon fop xalan dbtoepub gdb-doc gdbserver quarry cgoban qgo
gnupg-doc xloadimage gpsd-clients graphviz-doc libterm-readline-gnu-perl
libterm-readline-perl-perl k3b kdelibs5-dev kcachegrind-converters calligra
djvulibre-bin finger skanlite plasma-scriptengines cantor kiten blinken
kdegames-card-data-extra ffmpegthumbs mplayerthumbs lame perl-doc libqt4-dev
gimp inkscape xpaint dmalloc kdelibs5-doc qt4-doc devscripts xsltproc
kleopatra spamassassin bogofilter spambayes bsfilter crm114 clamav procmail
gnokii texlive-latex-base indi qt4-designer libesd0 libesd-alsa0 libroar1
libsndio0 roaraudio-server python3 pi exiv2 glew-utils1.5 gpgsm
gsl-ref-psdoc gsl-doc-pdf gsl-doc-info gsl-ref-html indi-bin
javascript-common hspell libktorrent-l10n libotr2-bin
libqca2-plugin-cyrus-sasl libqca2-plugin-gnupg libvncserver0-dbg lirc-x
okular-extra-backends texlive-binaries qhull-bin phonon-backend-vlc
phonon-backend-xine phonon-backend-mplayer pinentry-doc cdbs
network-manager-vpnc network-manager-openvpn python-wxgtk2.6 python-wxgtk2.8
python-numpy-doc python-numpy-dbg python-nose python-dev gfortran
python-openssl-doc python-openssl-dbg python-pam-dbg python-qt4-dbg
python-twisted-bin-dbg python-tk python-qt3 ri ruby-dev ruby1.8-examples
ri1.8 speech-dispatcher-festival speech-dispatcher-doc-cs libttspico-utils
speech-dispatcher-flite subversion-tools db4.8-util python-aeidon
translate-toolkit-dev-doc alleyoop valkyrie xscreensaver
I seguenti pacchetti NUOVI saranno installati:
advancecomp akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server akregator amor ark
avogadro-data blogilo bomber bovo cervisia cvs cvsservice docbook-xsl
dolphin dragonplayer espeak espeak-data filelight fonts-dustin
freespacenotifier gawk gdb gnugo gnupg-agent gnupg2 gpsd graphviz gwenview
icoutils jovie juk kaccessible kaddressbook kajongg kalarm kalgebra
kalgebra-common kalzium kalzium-data kamera kanagram kapman kapptemplate
kate kate-data katepart katomic kbattleship kblackbox kblocks kbounce
kbreakout kbruch kcachegrind kcalc kcharselect kcolorchooser kde-baseapps
kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-config-cddb kde-config-cron kde-full
kde-plasma-desktop kde-plasma-netbook kde-runtime kde-runtime-data
kde-standard kde-style-oxygen kde-wallpapers kde-wallpapers-default
kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin
kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdeaccessibility kdeadmin
kdeartwork kdeartwork-emoticons kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-window
kdeedu kdeedu-kvtml-data kdegames kdegames-card-data kdegames-mahjongg-data
kdegraphics kdegraphics-mobipocket kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer
kdegraphics-thumbnailers kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins
kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing
kdepasswd kdepim kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins
kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdeplasma-addons kdesdk kdesdk-dolphin-plugins
kdesdk-kio-plugins kdesdk-misc kdesdk-scripts kdesdk-strigi-plugins kdetoys
kdeutils kdewallpapers kdewebdev kdf kdiamond kdm kdoctools kfilereplace
kfind kfourinline kgamma kgeography kgeography-data kget kgoldrunner kgpg
khangman khelpcenter4 kig kigo killbots kimagemapeditor kinfocenter kiriki
kjots kjumpingcube klettres klettres-data klickety klines klinkstatus
klipper kmag kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmines kmix kmousetool kmouth kmplot
kmtrace knetwalk knode knotes kolf kollision kolourpaint4 kommander kompare
konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konquest konsole konsolekalendar
kontact kopete kopete-message-indicator korganizer kpartloader kpat kppp
krdc kremotecontrol kreversi krfb krosspython kruler ksaneplugin kscd
kscreensaver kscreensaver-xsavers kshisen ksirk ksnapshot kspaceduel
ksquares kstars kstars-data ksudoku ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog kteatime
ktimer ktimetracker ktouch ktouch-data ktron ktuberling kturtle ktux kubrick
kubuntu-debug-installer kuiviewer kuser kwalletmanager kwordquiz kwrite
libakonadi-calendar4 libakonadi-contact4 libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4
libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadi-notes4
libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libanalitza4abi1 libanalitzagui4abi1 libao4
libassuan0 libattica0.3 libavogadro1 libblas3gf libboost-graph1.46.1
libboost-program-options1.46.1 libboost-python1.46.1 libboost-regex1.46.1
libc6-dbg libcalendarsupport4 libcanberra-pulse libcfitsio3 libcgraph5
libcln6 libclucene0ldbl libdb4.8 libdbusmenu-qt2 libdiscid0
libdlrestrictions1 libdmtx0a libdotconf1.0 libespeak1 libeventviews4
libexiv2-11 libftdi1 libgadu3 libgfortran3 libglew1.5 libgpgme++2 libgpgme11
libgps20 libgrantlee-core0 libgrantlee-gui0 libgsl0ldbl libgvpr1 libical0
libincidenceeditorsng4 libindi-data libindi0 libindicate-qt1 libindicate5
libjpeg-progs libjpeg-turbo-progs libjs-jquery libkabc4 libkactivities-bin
libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2 libkasten1controllers1 libkasten1core1
libkasten1gui1 libkasten1okteta1controllers1 libkasten1okteta1core1
libkasten1okteta1gui1 libkateinterfaces4 libkatepartinterfaces4 libkblog4
libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkdcraw-data
libkdcraw20 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4 libkdecore5
libkdeedu-data libkdegames5a libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkdesu5
libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdgantt2 libkdnssd4 libkeduvocdocument4
libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkexiv2-10 libkexiv2-data libkfile4
libkggzgames4 libkggzmod4 libkggznet4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4
libkimap4 libkio5 libkipi-data libkipi8 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4
libkleo4 libkmahjongglib4 libkmanagesieve4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4
libkmime4 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4
libkonq-common libkonq5-templates libkonq5abi1 libkonqsidebarplugin4a
libkontactinterface4 libkopete4 libkparts4 libkpgp4 libkpimidentities4
libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4
libkrosscore4 libkrossui4 libksane-data libksane0 libksba8 libkscreensaver5
libksgrd4 libksieve4 libksieveui4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4
libktnef4 libktorrent3 libkunitconversion4 libkwineffects1abi3
libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1 libkxmlrpcclient4
liblapack3gf libmailcommon4 libmailtransport4 libmarblewidget13
libmeanwhile1 libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4
libmessageviewer4 libmicroblog4 libmsn0.3 libmusicbrainz3-6 libnepomuk4
libnepomukdatamanagement4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4 libnepomukutils4
libnova-0.12-2 libntrack-qt4-1 libntrack0 libokteta1core1 libokteta1gui1
libokularcore1abi1 libopenbabel4 libotr2 libphonon4
libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3 libplasmaclock4abi3
libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libpoppler-qt4-3 libportaudio2
libprison0 libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libpth20 libqalculate5
libqapt-runtime libqapt1 libqca2 libqca2-plugin-ossl libqgpgme1
libqimageblitz4 libqrencode3 libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-qt3support
libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test
libqtassistantclient4 libqtwebkit4 libreadline5 libruby1.8 libsigsegv2
libsolid4 libsolidcontrol4abi2 libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libsonic0
libsoprano4 libspeechd2 libssh-4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libsvn1
libsyndication4 libtaskmanager4abi3 libtemplateparser4 libthreadweaver4
libtidy-0.99-0 libvirtodbc0 libvncserver0 libweather-ion6 libxml2-utils lirc
lokalize lskat marble marble-data marble-plugins mysql-client-core-5.5
mysql-server-core-5.5 ntrack-module-libnl-0 okteta okular optipng
oxygen-cursor-theme oxygen-icon-theme palapeli palapeli-data parley
parley-data phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer pinentry-gtk2 pinentry-qt4
pkg-kde-tools plasma-containments-addons plasma-dataengines-addons
plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-desktopthemes-artwork
plasma-netbook plasma-runners-addons plasma-scriptengine-javascript
plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba plasma-wallpapers-addons
plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-lancelot
plasma-widget-message-indicator plasma-widget-networkmanagement
plasma-widgets-addons plasma-widgets-workspace polkit-kde-1 poxml
printer-applet python-avogadro python-dateutil python-enchant
python-iniparse python-kde4 python-levenshtein python-numpy python-openssl
python-pam python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus python-qt4-sql python-serial
python-simplejson python-sip python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core
python-utidylib python-vobject python-zope.interface qapt-batch rdesktop
rocs ruby ruby1.8 setserial shared-desktop-ontologies soprano-daemon
speech-dispatcher step subversion svgpart sweeper system-config-printer-kde
systemsettings tasks-icons translate-toolkit ttf-dustin umbrello valgrind
virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
vorbis-tools xplanet xplanet-images xscreensaver-data xscreensaver-gl
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kubuntu-desktop
Codice: Seleziona tutto
caturen@caturen:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[sudo] password for caturen:
Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
Generazione albero delle dipendenze
Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
I seguenti pacchetti saranno inoltre installati:
acpi-support acpid akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server akregator amarok
amarok-common amarok-utils anacron app-install-data-partner appmenu-gtk
appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt apport apport-kde apport-symptoms apturl-kde ark
avahi-autoipd bluedevil bluez-alsa bluez-cups brltty cdparanoia cdrdao dc
docbook-xsl dolphin dragonplayer dvd+rw-tools fonts-kacst fonts-kacst-one
fonts-khmeros-core fonts-lao fonts-nanum fonts-takao-pgothic fonts-thai-tlwg
fonts-tlwg-garuda fonts-tlwg-kinnari fonts-tlwg-loma fonts-tlwg-mono
fonts-tlwg-norasi fonts-tlwg-purisa fonts-tlwg-sawasdee
fonts-tlwg-typewriter fonts-tlwg-typist fonts-tlwg-typo fonts-tlwg-umpush
fonts-tlwg-waree freespacenotifier gdb ghostscript-x gnupg-agent gnupg2
gpgsm gpsd growisofs gstreamer0.10-qapt gtk2-engines-oxygen
gtk3-engines-oxygen gwenview hplip hplip-data ibus-qt4 icoutils inputattach
k3b k3b-data kaccessible kaddressbook kamera kate kate-data katepart kcalc
kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-config-gtk kde-config-touchpad
kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kde-style-oxygen kde-wallpapers-default
kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin
kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kde-zeroconf
kdegames-card-data kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data
kdelibs5-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kdepasswd
kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins
kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdesudo kdm kdoctools kerneloops-daemon khelpcenter4
kinfocenter klipper kmag kmail kmenuedit kmix kmousetool knotes konsole
kontact kopete kopete-message-indicator korganizer kpat kppp ksnapshot
ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog ktorrent ktorrent-data
kubuntu-debug-installer kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-docs
kubuntu-firefox-installer kubuntu-netbook-default-settings
kubuntu-notification-helper kubuntu-web-shortcuts kvkbd kwalletmanager
language-selector-kde libakonadi-calendar4 libakonadi-contact4
libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4
libakonadi-notes4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libassuan0 libattica0.3
libbluedevil1 libboost-program-options1.46.1 libbrlapi0.5
libcalendarsupport4 libcanberra-pulse libcln6 libclucene0ldbl libcupsdriver1
libdbusmenu-qt2 libdebconf-kde0 libdiscid0 libdlrestrictions1 libdmtx0a
libepub0 libeventviews4 libexiv2-11 libflac++6 libgadu3 libgpgme++2
libgpgme11 libgpod4-nogtk libgps20 libgrantlee-core0 libibus-qt1 libical0
libincidenceeditorsng4 libindicate-qt1 libindicate5 libjs-jquery libk3b6
libkabc4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2 libkateinterfaces4
libkatepartinterfaces4 libkblog4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4
libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4
libkdecore5 libkdegames5a libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkdesu5
libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdgantt2 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1
libkexiv2-10 libkexiv2-data libkfile4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4
libkimap4 libkio5 libkipi-data libkipi8 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4
libkleo4 libkmanagesieve4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4
libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkonq-common
libkonq5-templates libkonq5abi1 libkontactinterface4 libkopete4 libkparts4
libkpgp4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4
libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4 libksba8 libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4
libksieve4 libksieveui4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4 libktnef4
libktorrent-l10n libktorrent3 libkunitconversion4 libkwineffects1abi3
libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1 libkxmlrpcclient4
liblastfm0 libloudmouth1-0 libmailcommon4 libmailtransport4 libmeanwhile1
libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4 libmessageviewer4
libmicroblog4 libmsn0.3 libmuonprivate1 libmusicbrainz3-6 libmygpo-qt1
libnepomuk4 libnepomukdatamanagement4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4
libnepomukutils4 libntrack-qt4-1 libntrack0 libokularcore1abi1 libotr2
libphonon4 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3 libplasmaclock4abi3
libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libpoppler-qt4-3 libprison0
libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libpth20 libqalculate5 libqapt-runtime
libqapt1 libqca2 libqca2-plugin-ossl libqgpgme1 libqimageblitz4 libqjson0
libqrencode3 libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-qt3support
libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test
libqtassistantclient4 libqtglib-2.0-0 libqtgstreamer-0.10-0
libqtscript4-core libqtscript4-gui libqtscript4-network libqtscript4-sql
libqtscript4-uitools libqtscript4-xml libqtwebkit4 libsane-hpaio libsolid4
libsolidcontrol4abi2 libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libsoprano4 libspeechd2
libssh-4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libsyndication4 libtag-extras1
libtaskmanager4abi3 libtemplateparser4 libthreadweaver4 libvirtodbc0
libweather-ion6 libxml2-utils libxp6 libzip2 mscompress muon muon-installer
muon-notifier muon-updater mysql-client-core-5.5 mysql-server-core-5.5
ntrack-module-libnl-0 obexd-client okular okular-extra-backends
openprinting-ppds oxygen-cursor-theme oxygen-icon-theme partitionmanager
pcmciautils phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer pinentry-gtk2 pinentry-qt4
plasma-dataengines-addons plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop
plasma-netbook plasma-scriptengine-javascript plasma-scriptengine-python
plasma-widget-facebook plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-kimpanel
plasma-widget-menubar plasma-widget-message-indicator
plasma-widget-networkmanagement plasma-widgets-addons
plasma-widgets-workspace plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo
plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text policykit-desktop-privileges polkit-kde-1
printer-applet printer-driver-c2esp printer-driver-foo2zjs
printer-driver-hpcups printer-driver-postscript-hp printer-driver-ptouch
printer-driver-pxljr printer-driver-sag-gdi printer-driver-splix
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth python-apport python-crypto python-httplib2
python-imaging python-kde4 python-keyring python-launchpadlib
python-lazr.restfulclient python-lazr.uri python-oauth python-pexpect
python-problem-report python-pyudev python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus
python-renderpm python-reportlab python-reportlab-accel python-simplejson
python-sip python-wadllib python-zope.interface qapt-batch
qapt-deb-installer quassel quassel-data radeontool rekonq rfkill sane-utils
shared-desktop-ontologies software-properties-kde soprano-daemon
system-config-printer-kde systemsettings tasks-icons toshset
ttf-indic-fonts-core ttf-punjabi-fonts ttf-wqy-microhei
ubuntu-extras-keyring update-manager-kde usb-creator-kde userconfig
virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
wodim xcursor-themes xdg-user-dirs xsettings-kde
Pacchetti suggeriti:
akonadi-backend-sqlite akonadi-backend-postgresql libxine1-ffmpeg
libqt4-sql-psql moodbar rar brltty-speechd brltty-x11 console-braille
docbook-xsl-doc-html docbook-xsl-doc-pdf docbook-xsl-doc-text
docbook-xsl-doc libsaxon-java libxalan2-java libxslthl-java
docbook-xsl-saxon fop xalan dbtoepub kdesdk-dolphin-plugins kfind ruby
kompare cdrskin gdb-doc gdbserver gnupg-doc xloadimage gpsd-clients
kde-config-gtk-style svgpart hplip-gui hplip-doc system-config-printer
libterm-readline-gnu-perl libterm-readline-perl-perl k3b-extrathemes
normalize-audio sox movixmaker-2 libk3b6-extracodecs vcdimager djvulibre-bin
finger plasma-scriptengines kde-wallpapers kdegames-card-data-extra lame
kleopatra spamassassin bogofilter spambayes bsfilter crm114 clamav procmail
gnokii kjots ktimetracker knode kdeartwork-emoticons texlive-latex-base
plasma-widget-ktorrent krosspython pi exiv2 libgpod-common javascript-common
hspell libotr2-bin libqca2-plugin-cyrus-sasl libqca2-plugin-gnupg libqt4-dev
texlive-binaries jovie hpijs-ppds reiser4progs xfsprogs jfsutils ntfsprogs
hfsutils hfsplus phonon-backend-vlc phonon-backend-xine
phonon-backend-mplayer pinentry-doc network-manager-vpnc
network-manager-openvpn plasma-widget-lancelot psutils hannah-foo2zjs tk8.4
tix python-crypto-dbg python-crypto-doc python-imaging-doc
python-imaging-dbg python-testresources python-pyside.qtcore python-qt4-dbg
python-renderpm-dbg python-egenix-mxtexttools python-reportlab-doc kget
unpaper x-ttcidfont-conf cdrkit-doc
Pacchetti raccomandati:
jockey-kde libreoffice-kde libreoffice-style-oxygen
I seguenti pacchetti NUOVI saranno installati:
acpi-support acpid akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server akregator amarok
amarok-common amarok-utils anacron app-install-data-partner appmenu-gtk
appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt apport apport-kde apport-symptoms apturl-kde ark
avahi-autoipd bluedevil bluez-alsa bluez-cups brltty cdparanoia cdrdao dc
docbook-xsl dolphin dragonplayer dvd+rw-tools fonts-kacst fonts-kacst-one
fonts-khmeros-core fonts-lao fonts-nanum fonts-takao-pgothic fonts-thai-tlwg
fonts-tlwg-garuda fonts-tlwg-kinnari fonts-tlwg-loma fonts-tlwg-mono
fonts-tlwg-norasi fonts-tlwg-purisa fonts-tlwg-sawasdee
fonts-tlwg-typewriter fonts-tlwg-typist fonts-tlwg-typo fonts-tlwg-umpush
fonts-tlwg-waree freespacenotifier gdb ghostscript-x gnupg-agent gnupg2
gpgsm gpsd growisofs gstreamer0.10-qapt gtk2-engines-oxygen
gtk3-engines-oxygen gwenview hplip hplip-data ibus-qt4 icoutils inputattach
k3b k3b-data kaccessible kaddressbook kamera kate kate-data katepart kcalc
kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-config-gtk kde-config-touchpad
kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kde-style-oxygen kde-wallpapers-default
kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin
kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kde-zeroconf
kdegames-card-data kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data
kdelibs5-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kdepasswd
kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins
kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdesudo kdm kdoctools kerneloops-daemon khelpcenter4
kinfocenter klipper kmag kmail kmenuedit kmix kmousetool knotes konsole
kontact kopete kopete-message-indicator korganizer kpat kppp ksnapshot
ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog ktorrent ktorrent-data
kubuntu-debug-installer kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-desktop
kubuntu-docs kubuntu-firefox-installer kubuntu-netbook-default-settings
kubuntu-notification-helper kubuntu-web-shortcuts kvkbd kwalletmanager
language-selector-kde libakonadi-calendar4 libakonadi-contact4
libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4 libakonadi-kmime4
libakonadi-notes4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libassuan0 libattica0.3
libbluedevil1 libboost-program-options1.46.1 libbrlapi0.5
libcalendarsupport4 libcanberra-pulse libcln6 libclucene0ldbl libcupsdriver1
libdbusmenu-qt2 libdebconf-kde0 libdiscid0 libdlrestrictions1 libdmtx0a
libepub0 libeventviews4 libexiv2-11 libflac++6 libgadu3 libgpgme++2
libgpgme11 libgpod4-nogtk libgps20 libgrantlee-core0 libibus-qt1 libical0
libincidenceeditorsng4 libindicate-qt1 libindicate5 libjs-jquery libk3b6
libkabc4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2 libkateinterfaces4
libkatepartinterfaces4 libkblog4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4
libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4
libkdecore5 libkdegames5a libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkdesu5
libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdgantt2 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1
libkexiv2-10 libkexiv2-data libkfile4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4
libkimap4 libkio5 libkipi-data libkipi8 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4
libkleo4 libkmanagesieve4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4
libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkonq-common
libkonq5-templates libkonq5abi1 libkontactinterface4 libkopete4 libkparts4
libkpgp4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4
libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4 libksba8 libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4
libksieve4 libksieveui4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4 libktnef4
libktorrent-l10n libktorrent3 libkunitconversion4 libkwineffects1abi3
libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1 libkxmlrpcclient4
liblastfm0 libloudmouth1-0 libmailcommon4 libmailtransport4 libmeanwhile1
libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4 libmessageviewer4
libmicroblog4 libmsn0.3 libmuonprivate1 libmusicbrainz3-6 libmygpo-qt1
libnepomuk4 libnepomukdatamanagement4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4
libnepomukutils4 libntrack-qt4-1 libntrack0 libokularcore1abi1 libotr2
libphonon4 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3 libplasmaclock4abi3
libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libpoppler-qt4-3 libprison0
libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libpth20 libqalculate5 libqapt-runtime
libqapt1 libqca2 libqca2-plugin-ossl libqgpgme1 libqimageblitz4 libqjson0
libqrencode3 libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-qt3support
libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test
libqtassistantclient4 libqtglib-2.0-0 libqtgstreamer-0.10-0
libqtscript4-core libqtscript4-gui libqtscript4-network libqtscript4-sql
libqtscript4-uitools libqtscript4-xml libqtwebkit4 libsane-hpaio libsolid4
libsolidcontrol4abi2 libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libsoprano4 libspeechd2
libssh-4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libsyndication4 libtag-extras1
libtaskmanager4abi3 libtemplateparser4 libthreadweaver4 libvirtodbc0
libweather-ion6 libxml2-utils libxp6 libzip2 mscompress muon muon-installer
muon-notifier muon-updater mysql-client-core-5.5 mysql-server-core-5.5
ntrack-module-libnl-0 obexd-client okular okular-extra-backends
openprinting-ppds oxygen-cursor-theme oxygen-icon-theme partitionmanager
pcmciautils phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer pinentry-gtk2 pinentry-qt4
plasma-dataengines-addons plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop
plasma-netbook plasma-scriptengine-javascript plasma-scriptengine-python
plasma-widget-facebook plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-kimpanel
plasma-widget-menubar plasma-widget-message-indicator
plasma-widget-networkmanagement plasma-widgets-addons
plasma-widgets-workspace plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo
plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text policykit-desktop-privileges polkit-kde-1
printer-applet printer-driver-c2esp printer-driver-foo2zjs
printer-driver-hpcups printer-driver-postscript-hp printer-driver-ptouch
printer-driver-pxljr printer-driver-sag-gdi printer-driver-splix
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth python-apport python-crypto python-httplib2
python-imaging python-kde4 python-keyring python-launchpadlib
python-lazr.restfulclient python-lazr.uri python-oauth python-pexpect
python-problem-report python-pyudev python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus
python-renderpm python-reportlab python-reportlab-accel python-simplejson
python-sip python-wadllib python-zope.interface qapt-batch
qapt-deb-installer quassel quassel-data radeontool rekonq rfkill sane-utils
shared-desktop-ontologies software-properties-kde soprano-daemon
system-config-printer-kde systemsettings tasks-icons toshset
ttf-indic-fonts-core ttf-punjabi-fonts ttf-wqy-microhei
ubuntu-extras-keyring update-manager-kde usb-creator-kde userconfig
virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
wodim xcursor-themes xdg-user-dirs xsettings-kde
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cioè il meta pacchetto ha 158 mg di pacchetti in più. Questo su precise con mate come DE
sempre evitati in favore del piu minimale plasma-desktop
infatti è molto più "leggero"
Codice: Seleziona tutto
caturen@caturen:~$ sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop
[sudo] password for caturen:
Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
Generazione albero delle dipendenze
Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
I seguenti pacchetti saranno inoltre installati:
akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server docbook-xsl freespacenotifier gpsd
icoutils kate-data katepart kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kde-style-oxygen
kde-wallpapers-default kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common
kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data
kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins
kdepim-runtime kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdm kdoctools kinfocenter klipper
kmenuedit ksysguard ksysguardd kubuntu-debug-installer libakonadi-calendar4
libakonadi-contact4 libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4
libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadi-notes4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1
libattica0.3 libboost-program-options1.46.1 libcanberra-pulse libcln6
libclucene0ldbl libdbusmenu-qt2 libdlrestrictions1 libdmtx0a libexiv2-11
libgps20 libical0 libkabc4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2
libkatepartinterfaces4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcmutils4
libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4 libkdecore5 libkdesu5
libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkfile4
libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkimap4 libkio5 libkjsapi4
libkjsembed4 libkldap4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4 libknewstuff3-4
libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkparts4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4
libkpimutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4 libkscreensaver5
libksgrd4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4 libkunitconversion4
libkwineffects1abi3 libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1
libmailtransport4 libmicroblog4 libnepomuk4 libnepomukdatamanagement4
libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4 libnepomukutils4 libntrack-qt4-1
libntrack0 libphonon4 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3
libplasmaclock4abi3 libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libprison0
libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libqalculate5 libqapt-runtime libqapt1
libqca2 libqimageblitz4 libqrencode3 libqt4-designer libqt4-qt3support
libqt4-svg libqtwebkit4 libsolid4 libsolidcontrol4abi2
libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libsoprano4 libssh-4 libstreamanalyzer0
libstreams0 libsyndication4 libtaskmanager4abi3 libthreadweaver4
libvirtodbc0 libweather-ion6 libxml2-utils mysql-client-core-5.5
mysql-server-core-5.5 ntrack-module-libnl-0 oxygen-cursor-theme
oxygen-icon-theme phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer
plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-scriptengine-javascript
plasma-widgets-workspace qapt-batch shared-desktop-ontologies soprano-daemon
systemsettings virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin
virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
Pacchetti suggeriti:
akonadi-backend-sqlite akonadi-backend-postgresql docbook-xsl-doc-html
docbook-xsl-doc-pdf docbook-xsl-doc-text docbook-xsl-doc libsaxon-java
libxalan2-java libxslthl-java docbook-xsl-saxon fop xalan dbtoepub
gpsd-clients libterm-readline-gnu-perl libterm-readline-perl-perl
djvulibre-bin finger plasma-scriptengines kde-wallpapers kdepasswd pi exiv2
hspell libqca2-plugin-cyrus-sasl libqca2-plugin-gnupg libqca2-plugin-ossl
phonon-backend-vlc phonon-backend-xine phonon-backend-mplayer
I seguenti pacchetti NUOVI saranno installati:
akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server docbook-xsl freespacenotifier gpsd
icoutils kate-data katepart kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kde-style-oxygen
kde-wallpapers-default kde-window-manager kde-window-manager-common
kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data
kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins
kdepim-runtime kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdm kdoctools kinfocenter klipper
kmenuedit ksysguard ksysguardd kubuntu-debug-installer libakonadi-calendar4
libakonadi-contact4 libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4
libakonadi-kmime4 libakonadi-notes4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1
libattica0.3 libboost-program-options1.46.1 libcanberra-pulse libcln6
libclucene0ldbl libdbusmenu-qt2 libdlrestrictions1 libdmtx0a libexiv2-11
libgps20 libical0 libkabc4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2
libkatepartinterfaces4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcmutils4
libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecorations4 libkdecore5 libkdesu5
libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkfile4
libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkimap4 libkio5 libkjsapi4
libkjsembed4 libkldap4 libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4 libknewstuff3-4
libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkparts4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4
libkpimutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4 libkscreensaver5
libksgrd4 libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4 libkunitconversion4
libkwineffects1abi3 libkwinglutils1 libkwinnvidiahack4 libkworkspace4abi1
libmailtransport4 libmicroblog4 libnepomuk4 libnepomukdatamanagement4
libnepomukquery4a libnepomuksync4 libnepomukutils4 libntrack-qt4-1
libntrack0 libphonon4 libplasma-geolocation-interface4 libplasma3
libplasmaclock4abi3 libplasmagenericshell4 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libprison0
libprocesscore4abi1 libprocessui4a libqalculate5 libqapt-runtime libqapt1
libqca2 libqimageblitz4 libqrencode3 libqt4-designer libqt4-qt3support
libqt4-svg libqtwebkit4 libsolid4 libsolidcontrol4abi2
libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2 libsoprano4 libssh-4 libstreamanalyzer0
libstreams0 libsyndication4 libtaskmanager4abi3 libthreadweaver4
libvirtodbc0 libweather-ion6 libxml2-utils mysql-client-core-5.5
mysql-server-core-5.5 ntrack-module-libnl-0 oxygen-cursor-theme
oxygen-icon-theme phonon phonon-backend-gstreamer
plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-scriptengine-javascript
plasma-widgets-workspace qapt-batch shared-desktop-ontologies soprano-daemon
systemsettings virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin
virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common
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cioè quasi 200 mb in meno di kde-full
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 6:56
da Toshio
Dalla wiki:
kde-full è un metapacchetto che oltre a installare i pacchetti sopra citati riferiti a kde-plasma-desktop, installa anche i seguenti pacchetti di KDE4
A me sembra di capire che "full" comprenda "desktop".
Quindi... come dice la wiki? Confermato?
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 10:13
da develop
vi posso dire che io ho installato la versione full e non comprende la versione desktop per quanto riguarda KDE
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 11:10
da caturen
quello che installano quei pacchetti lo si può ben vedere negli output sopra. Cosa intendi con
full" comprenda "desktop".
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 11:21
da ale multimediale
Stando al trova del browser il meta pachetto kde-plasma-desktop viene installato nell'installazione di kde-full
..Mentre nell'installazione di kubuntu-desktop no..Kubuntu desktop comprende pacchetti denominati kubuntu (ce ne uno pure per firefox) che non ha kde-full..In pratica da quello che ho capito kubuntu-desktop è un meta pacchetto che installa una selezione di pacchetti personalizzata per kubuntu che comprende anche pacchetti di temi e altro..Ad esempio update-manager-kde c'è solo nel pacchetto kubuntu-desktop..Quindi aveva ragione caturen,per avere kubuntu avresti dovuto installare kubuntu-desktop..
Il pacchetto kde-full invece dovrebbe installare gli stessi pacchetti che vengono installati anche su altre distro quando si va a installare quel meta pacchetto,ad esempio debian
https://wiki.debian.org/it/KDE
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 12:52
da caturen
installa una selezione di pacchetti personalizzata per kubuntu che comprende anche pacchetti di temi e altro
non ci vuole mica una cima per capirlo: altrimenti perchè si chiama
kubuntu-desktop?
Il pacchetto kde-full invece dovrebbe installare gli stessi pacchetti che vengono installati anche su altre distro quando si va a installare quel meta pacchetto
pressappoco dovrebbe essere così. Però credo che ogni distro "customizzi"quello che per lei è kde e quindi penso che i pacchetti variano da distro a distro. Forse.
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 13:11
da ale multimediale
caturen ha scritto:non ci vuole mica una cima per capirlo: altrimenti perchè si chiama kubuntu-desktop?
No,non è cosi semplice e l'esempio lo è proprio l'update-manager che viene installato con kubuntu-desktop ma non con kde-full....Infatti update manager non è presente nei repo di ad esempio debian su cui non si puo installare ma è una esclusiva solo kubuntu/ubuntu,anche se poi non viene denominato kubuntu-update-manager..E cosi sara pure per altri programmi...
caturen ha scritto:Però credo che ogni distro "customizzi"quello che per lei è kde e quindi penso che i pacchetti variano da distro a distro. Forse.
Di pacchetti custom sempre per debian c'è kde-standard,come dice la wiki di debian...Per kde-full dice :
La versione standard/originale.
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 18:38
da caturen
No,non è cosi semplice e l'esempio lo è proprio l'update-manager che viene installato con kubuntu-desktop ma non con kde-full....Infatti update manager non è presente nei repo di ad esempio debian su cui non si puo installare ma è una esclusiva solo kubuntu/ubuntu,anche se poi non viene denominato kubuntu-update-manager..E cosi sara pure per altri programmi...
non conosco benissimo kde, ma credo che non esista un software "proprio" di kde atto agli aggiornamenti ed ogni distro usa un suo proprio: debian ha apper , ubuntu ha muon, mangiaro ha octopi,ecc. L'update-manager viene installato con kubuntu-desktop proprio perchè fa parte delle customizzazioni di ubuntu perchè
Support modules for Muon Notifier and Apper to check for new distro releases
and download the dist-upgrade tool.
In debian il passaggio alla nuova stable si fa in maniera diversa.
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 19:27
da Toshio
La mia era una domanda, cercavo di capire perchè avevo la sensazione che si stessero dicendo cose un po' diverse dalla wiki.
Riassumendo
Matrioska dalla più grande alla più piccola: kubuntu-desktop, kde-full, kde-plasma-desktop
Ritornando alla domanda di develop per avere kde come se si fosse installato direttamente Kubuntu bisogna installare kde-desktop. Se si installa solo kde-full come lui ha fatto non si ha un kde completo e mancano appunto i pacchetti indicati sopra.
Cosa comporta esattamente e se comporta problemi non lo so.
e l'esempio lo è proprio l'update-manager che viene installato con kubuntu-desktop ma non con kde-full....
Quindi installando solo kde-full si avrebbe un sistema "ibrido", per esempio tra le altre cose il sistema continuerebbe ad utilizzare l'update-manager di ubuntu.
Confermate? Ma soprattuttto essendo ibrido darà problemi/conflitti? Oppure
è previsto che uno con ubuntu unity installi solo kde-full e va bene così, e cioè la mancanza di quei pacchetti (quelli "in più" derivanti da kubuntu-desktop) viene sopperita da quelli preinstallati con unity?
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 20:26
da caturen
se uno ha unity non ha molto senso installare kde, qualunque esso sia. A me che non usi una sessione apposita per quel DE. Usarlo nello stesso utente che usa unkity non penso sia una buona cosa.
Ritornando alla domanda di develop per avere kde come se si fosse installato direttamente Kubuntu bisogna installare kde-desktop.
no, bisogna installare kubuntu-desktop altrimenti non si avranno le stesse cose di kubuntu.
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 20:55
da Toshio
caturen ha scritto:no, bisogna installare kubuntu-desktop altrimenti non si avranno le stesse cose di kubuntu.
Si intendevo
kubuntu-desktop, ho corretto sopra,
kde-desktop neanche esiste, esistono poi gl'altri due citati.
caturen ha scritto:Usarlo nello stesso utente che usa unity non penso sia una buona cosa.
Dal primo post di develop pare che lui abbia appunto installato kde-full, non ha specificato se utilizza due utenti, uno per unity mantenendolo e uno per kde oppure abbia "sovrapposto". Tu comunque pensi che se fosse "sovrapposto" nascerebbero conflitti.
Mi chiedevo infatti
Oppure è previsto che uno con ubuntu unity installi solo kde-full e va bene così
e cioè
se questa versione "non-completa" (rispetto kubuntu-desktop) fosse proprio ideata per essere installata in quel modo.
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 21:33
da caturen
mettere insieme DE così differenti nello stesso utente si rischia di fare una macedonia dal gusto indigesto. Poi, per carità, potrebbero anche convivere benissimo, ma io non lo farei di certo
found very useful installing several desktop environments but creating separated accounts to use them. I have installed Ubuntu 12.04. For example: - I have the default Ubuntu 12.04 Unity Desktop under the default user account "mauricio". This account is my Unity Desktop. But then I wanted to have a GnomeShell desktop and, - I installed Gnome-Shell and created a new user account with name "VenGshell" and I use Gnome-shell there and configure the whole account with Gnome-shell. So my Unity preferences in my Unity desktop have nothing to do in this Gnome-Shell account, Get it? - Then I wanted to have a KDE desktop in this same Ubuntu installation. So I installed the Kubuntu-Desktop and created another user account under the name of "MaVriK". And I configure it to use KDE desktop environment and, of course again, It is completely apart and nothing to do with the other desktop customizations.
This kind of configuration is, IMHO, the best way to have every desktop environment living together under the same Linux installation.
So: - If I want to use Unity: I login under "mauricio". - If I want to use Gnome-Shell: I login to "VenGShell". - If I want to use KDE: I login to "MavriK"
That easy.
I never ever have any performance issues under this configuration, in any desktop environment.
About applications all showing in the Apps menu? I just do not really care about it! because for that task there are the panels. I have access to my prefered apps I use to use daily in those panels, I just add the app icons there and forget about app menus. And if I want to launch an app in particular, there is Gnome-Do to easily "DO" that task!
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 21:56
da Toshio
caturen ha scritto:mettere insieme DE così differenti nello stesso utente si rischia di fare una macedonia dal gusto indigesto...
E questo mi era chiaro
(già sentito) e per quanto mi riguarda faccio pure una partizione separata utilizzo in live o su macchina virtuale per utilizzare/"provare" diversi DE, e buona notte.
Infatti la mia era un'ipotesi che il pacchetto
kde-full fosse ideato per essere sovrapposto installato su ubuntu/unity e chiedevo in tal senso.
Sorge la domanda: a cosa dovrebbe servire questo pacchetto, visto che la cosa "migliore" è comunque installare il più completo
kubuntu-desktop con un utente "separato"? Quando e in quali situazioni è utile installarlo?
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 22:11
da ale multimediale
Io son convinto che sto kde-full sia una selezione di pacchetti fatta per ubuntu e per altri SO come ad esempio debian..Un meta-pacchetto standard (come dice la wiki di debian)che installa sui vari SO gli stessi programmi..Che poi le librerie siano diverse e piu compatibili con il SO a cui lo si va installare,ok..
Quindi io la vedo cosi
kde-full=pacchetto standard per tutti i SO
kubuntu-desktop=kubuntu e tutti i suoi programmi,una selezione creata apposta per essere installata su ubuntu
kde-plasma-desktop=come kde-full una selezione minimale dell'indispensabiule per tutti i SO..Minimale è minimale palsma-desktop,una volta installato e avviato non si ha neppure konsole,dolphin,kmix ecc..Proprio per lasciar la scelta all'utente quale file manager o terminale ecc.. usare..Se fai un "dual DE" con unity potresti installare questo pacchetto e usare nautilus e gnome-terminal,ad esempio
Re: Differenza tra Kubuntu e Ubuntu+kde
Inviato: venerdì 22 maggio 2015, 22:58
da caturen
There are different packages to be installed to acquire Kubuntu from an Ubuntu installation depending on which packages you want. Below are the three possible choices, or "routes", to go down; the packages below are metapackages -- they depend upon other, "real", packages, and with their installation they pull them in. For details on package installation methods, see the wiki page InstallingSoftware. The options are as follows:
(i) kubuntu-desktop -- This is the recommended metapackage to install; the full Kubuntu installation, with all the Kubuntu recommended packages. This includes LibreOffice, Kontact, Konversation, Amarok, K3B, and others.
(ii) kde-full -- This will install the following KDE packages: kdegames, kdeaccessibility, kdeplasma-addons, kdeadmin, kdeartwork, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdesdk, kdeutils, kdewebdev, and the kde-plasma-desktop metapackage (see details below).
(iii) kde-plasma-desktop --- This will install the core -- the bare-minimum required-- of KDE. That is, kdebase-apps, kdebase-runtime, kdebase-workspace and kdm.
If you choose to not install kubuntu-desktop, then you can still get all the Kubuntu-specific tweaks by installing the kubuntu-default-settings package. For users with GTK applications, you will need the kde-config-gtk-style and/or gtk3-engines-oxygen package(s) installed, if they aren't already, for proper integration.
essendo dei meta pacchetti è canonical che decide quali siano i pacchetti che sono inglobati. Per come l'ho capita io kde-full è tutto l' insieme dei pacchetti disponibili per kde, però senza nessuna "personalizzazione" di canonical. Ci potrebbero essere pure dei software che non vengono inclusi in kubuntu. In kubuntu ci sono, in parte o tutti questi pacchetti più tutti i temi, icone e settaggi vari per il prodotto finito chiamato kubuntu. Per vedere poi nello specifico che cosa si installa dando i tre diversi comandi basta andare a spulciare quello che ho scritto sopra. Oppure
http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/kde/kde-full
http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/kubuntu-desktop
http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/plasma-desktop