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Chiarimento tra 32bit e 64bit ?

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Ciao :)

Vorrei chiedervi una cosa,ogni volta che un pc ha una cpu 64bit conviene installare un os a 64bit, anche nel caso in cui la cpu 64bit è un modello non proprio nuovo?
Non so perchè,ma ho sempre avuto l'idea che l'os 32bit sia più leggero,quindi magari va meglio anche su un processore 64bit, ditemi voi, forse conviene usare sempre il 64bit se supportato ?

Ad esempio questo vecchio pc, mi sembra di leggere che usa una cpu 64 bit,fin'ora ho sempre usato un os 32bit.

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roberto-ubuntu-mate       
    description: Desktop Computer
    product: To Be Filled By O.E.M. (To Be Filled By O.E.M.)
    vendor: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    version: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    serial: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    [color=#0000FF][b]width: 32 bits[/b][/color]
    capabilities: smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4 smp-1.4 smp
    configuration: boot=normal chassis=desktop cpus=1 family=To Be Filled By O.E.M. sku=To Be Filled By O.E.M. uuid=00020003-0004-0005-0006-000700080009
  *-core
       description: Motherboard
       product: 4CoreDual-SATA2.
       physical id: 0
     *-firmware
          description: BIOS
          vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
          physical id: 0
          version: P2.00
          date: 05/22/2008
          size: 64KiB
          capacity: 448KiB
          capabilities: pci upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb ls120boot zipboot biosbootspecification netboot
     *-cpu
          description: CPU
          product: [b]Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz[/b]
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          physical id: 4
          bus info: cpu@0
          version: 15.4.3
          serial: 0000-0F43-0000-0000-0000-0000
          slot: CPUSocket
          size: 3400MHz
          capacity: 3400MHz
          [color=#FF0000]width: 64 bits[/color]
          clock: 200MHz
          capabilities: boot fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx x86-64 constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est cid cx16 xtpr
          configuration: id=1
        *-cache:0
             description: L1 cache
             physical id: 5
             slot: L1-Cache
             size: 16KiB
             capacity: 16KiB
             capabilities: internal write-back data
             configuration: level=1
        *-cache:1
             description: L2 cache
             physical id: 6
             slot: L2-Cache
             size: 2MiB
             capacity: 2MiB
             capabilities: internal write-back unified
             configuration: level=2
        *-logicalcpu:0
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 1.1
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:1
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 1.2
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
     *-memory
          description: System Memory
          physical id: 10
          slot: System board or motherboard
          size: 1GiB
        *-bank:0
             description: DIMM [empty]
             product: PartNum0
             vendor: Manufacturer0
             physical id: 0
             serial: SerNum0
             slot: DIMM0
        *-bank:1
             description: DIMM SDRAM Synchronous
             product: PartNum1
             vendor: Manufacturer1
             physical id: 1
             serial: SerNum1
             slot: DIMM1
             size: 1GiB
             width: 64 bits
     *-pci:0
          description: Host bridge
          product: PT880 Ultra/PT894 Host Bridge
          vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
          physical id: 100
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          configuration: driver=agpgart-via latency=8
          resources: irq:0 memory:f8000000-fbffffff
        *-generic UNCLAIMED
             description: PIC
             product: PT894 I/O APIC Interrupt Controller
             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
             physical id: 0.5
             bus info: pci@0000:00:00.5
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: io_x_-apic bus_master
             configuration: latency=0
        *-pci:0
             description: PCI bridge
             product: VT8237/VX700 PCI Bridge
             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
             physical id: 1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: pci pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             resources: ioport:e000(size=4096) memory:fea00000-feafffff memory:f0000000-f7ffffff
           *-display
                description: VGA compatible controller
                product: RV250 [Radeon 9000 Series]
                vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
                version: 01
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 66MHz
                capabilities: agp agp-2.0 pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
                configuration: driver=radeon latency=32 mingnt=8
                resources: irq:16 memory:f0000000-f7ffffff ioport:e000(size=256) memory:feaf0000-feafffff memory:feac0000-feadffff
        *-pci:1
             description: PCI bridge
             product: PT890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller
             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
             physical id: 2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pciexpress pm msi normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:25 ioport:1000(size=4096) memory:40000000-403fffff memory:fdf00000-fdffffff
        *-ide:0
             description: IDE interface
             product: VT8237/8251 Serial ATA Controller
             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
             physical id: f
             bus info: pci@0000:00:0f.0
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: ide pm bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=sata_via latency=32
             resources: irq:21 ioport:dc00(size=8) ioport:d880(size=4) ioport:d800(size=8) ioport:d480(size=4) ioport:d400(size=16) ioport:d000(size=256)
        *-ide:1
             description: IDE interface
             product: VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE
             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
             physical id: f.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:0f.1
             version: 07
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: ide pm bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pata_via latency=32
             resources: irq:0 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:fc00(size=16)
        *-usb:0
             description: USB controller
             product: VT82xx/62xx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
             physical id: 10
             bus info: pci@0000:00:10.0
             version: b0
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm uhci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32
             resources: irq:20 ioport:c480(size=32)
           *-usbhost
                product: UHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-59-generic uhci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@2
                logical name: usb2
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
              *-usb
                   description: Mouse
                   product: USB OPTICAL MOUSE
                   physical id: 1
                   bus info: usb@2:1
                   version: 1.00
                   capabilities: usb-1.10
                   configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA speed=1Mbit/s
        *-usb:1
             description: USB controller
             product: VT82xx/62xx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
             physical id: 10.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:10.1
             version: b0
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm uhci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32
             resources: irq:22 ioport:c800(size=32)
           *-usbhost
                product: UHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-59-generic uhci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@3
                logical name: usb3
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
        *-usb:2
             description: USB controller
             product: VT82xx/62xx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
             physical id: 10.2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:10.2
             version: b0
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm uhci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32
             resources: irq:21 ioport:c880(size=32)
           *-usbhost
                product: UHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-59-generic uhci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@4
                logical name: usb4
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
        *-usb:3
             description: USB controller
             product: VT82xx/62xx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
             physical id: 10.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:10.3
             version: b0
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm uhci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32
             resources: irq:23 ioport:cc00(size=32)
           *-usbhost
                product: UHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-59-generic uhci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@5
                logical name: usb5
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
        *-usb:4
             description: USB controller
             product: USB 2.0
             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
             physical id: 10.4
             bus info: pci@0000:00:10.4
             version: 90
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=32
             resources: irq:21 memory:fe9ffc00-fe9ffcff
           *-usbhost
                product: EHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-59-generic ehci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@1
                logical name: usb1
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-2.00
                configuration: driver=hub slots=8 speed=480Mbit/s
        *-isa
             description: ISA bridge
             product: VT8237S PCI to ISA Bridge
             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
             physical id: 11
             bus info: pci@0000:00:11.0
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: isa pm cap_list
             configuration: latency=0
        *-network
             description: Ethernet interface
             product: VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II]
             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
             physical id: 12
             bus info: pci@0000:00:12.0
             logical name: enp0s18
             version: 7c
             serial: 00:19:66:80:04:70
             size: 100Mbit/s
             capacity: 100Mbit/s
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
             configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=via-rhine driverversion=1.5.1 duplex=full ip=192.168.1.104 latency=32 link=yes maxlatency=8 mingnt=3 multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s
             resources: irq:23 ioport:c000(size=256) memory:fe9ff800-fe9ff8ff
        *-pci:2
             description: PCI bridge
             product: VT8237A PCI to PCI Bridge
             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
             physical id: 13.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:13.1
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci ht subtractive_decode bus_master cap_list
     *-pci:1
          description: Host bridge
          product: PT894 Host Bridge
          vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
          physical id: 101
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.1
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:2
          description: Host bridge
          product: PT894 Host Bridge
          vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
          physical id: 102
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.2
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:3
          description: Host bridge
          product: PT890 Host Bridge
          vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
          physical id: 103
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.3
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:4
          description: Host bridge
          product: PT894 Host Bridge
          vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
          physical id: 104
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.4
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:5
          description: Host bridge
          product: PT894 Host Bridge
          vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
          physical id: 105
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.7
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:6
          description: Host bridge
          product: VT8237/8251 Ultra VLINK Controller
          vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
          physical id: 106
          bus info: pci@0000:00:11.7
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          configuration: latency=32
     *-pci:7
          description: Host bridge
          product: VT8237A Host Bridge
          vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
          physical id: 107
          bus info: pci@0000:00:13.0
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-multimedia
          description: Audio device
          product: VT8237A/VT8251 HDA Controller
          vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
          physical id: 1
          bus info: pci@0000:80:01.0
          version: 10
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
          configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
          resources: irq:26 memory:febfc000-febfffff
     *-scsi:0
          physical id: 2
          logical name: scsi2
          capabilities: emulated
        *-disk
             description: ATA Disk
             product: IC35L090AVV207-0
             vendor: Hitachi
             physical id: 0.0.0
             bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0
             logical name: /dev/sda
             version: A63A
             serial: VNVC06G3C86NTL
             size: 76GiB (82GB)
             capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
             configuration: ansiversion=5 logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512 signature=a03e7075
           *-volume:0
                description: Windows NTFS volume
                physical id: 1
                bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,1
                logical name: /dev/sda1
                version: 3.1
                serial: 10403b82-c92f-ea40-9af6-9adc26f9d729
                size: 48GiB
                capacity: 48GiB
                capabilities: primary bootable ntfs initialized
                configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2014-01-15 20:23:52 filesystem=ntfs modified_by_chkdsk=true mounted_on_nt4=true resize_log_file=true state=dirty upgrade_on_mount=true
           *-volume:1
                description: Extended partition
                physical id: 2
                bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,2
                logical name: /dev/sda2
                size: 28GiB
                capacity: 28GiB
                capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended
              *-logicalvolume:0
                   description: Linux filesystem partition
                   physical id: 5
                   logical name: /dev/sda5
                   logical name: /
                   capacity: 27GiB
                   configuration: mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered state=mounted
              *-logicalvolume:1
                   description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
                   physical id: 6
                   logical name: /dev/sda6
                   capacity: 1023MiB
                   capabilities: nofs
     *-scsi:1
          physical id: 3
          logical name: scsi3
          capabilities: emulated
        *-cdrom
             description: DVD-RAM writer
             product: DVDRAM GSA-H10N
             vendor: HL-DT-ST
             physical id: 0.0.0
             bus info: scsi@3:0.0.0
             logical name: /dev/cdrom
             logical name: /dev/cdrw
             logical name: /dev/dvd
             logical name: /dev/dvdrw
             logical name: /dev/sr0
             version: JL10
             capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
             configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
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Re: Chiarimento tra 32bit e 64bit ?

Messaggio da Pike »

Pentium 4 3.40 GHZ 775 "non proprio nuovo"? Maddài :D
Cambiati la CPU, la tua scheda madre supporta ben di meglio.

Potresti stupirti come "decolla" di prestazioni. 64 bit consente di andare oltre i 4gb di ram.
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Re: Chiarimento tra 32bit e 64bit ?

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Pike [url=http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?p=4955452#p4955452][img]http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/images/icons/icona-cita.gif[/img][/url] ha scritto:Pentium 4 3.40 GHZ 775 "non proprio nuovo"? Maddài :D
Cambiati la CPU, la tua scheda madre supporta ben di meglio.

Potresti stupirti come "decolla" di prestazioni. 64 bit consente di andare oltre i 4gb di ram.
Non so perchè, ma credevo che la mia cpu (Pentium 4) avesse un socket diverso dal 755............755 è il socket anche della cpu E2180 che mi trovo su un'altro pc e avevo intenzione di sostituire con una e8500 che si trova a poco prezzo.

La e8500 è la migliore come rapporto qualità prezzo ? si trova a un prezzo compreso tra i 10 e 20€ su ebay.

Quindi potrei sostituire la pentium 4 con la e2180 e sull'altro pc metterei la 8500 ? la e2180 anche se non molto potente sull'altro pc fa girare win7 fluidamente e senza nessun intoppo....

Anche la ram dell' optiplex vorrei sostituirla e prendere 2*2gb , quella mb supporta max 4gb di ram.

I banchi 1*1GB montati su quel pc possono andare bene su questo pc dalle caratteristiche che ho messo sopra ?

Le caratteristiche dell' optiplex sono:

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To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
See "man sudo_root" for details.

xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ sudo ishw
sudo: ishw: command not found
xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ sudo lshw
xubuntu                   
    description: Mini Tower Computer
    product: OptiPlex 330
    vendor: Dell Inc.
    serial: 1Y4QX3J
    width: 32 bits
    capabilities: smbios-2.5 dmi-2.5 smp-1.4 smp
    configuration: administrator_password=enabled boot=normal chassis=mini-tower cpus=2 power-on_password=enabled uuid=44454C4C-5900-1034-8051-B1C04F58334A
  *-core
       description: Motherboard
       product: 0KP561
       vendor: Dell Inc.
       physical id: 0
       serial: ..CN7082186IB1X6.
     *-firmware
          description: BIOS
          vendor: Dell Inc.
          physical id: 0
          version: A05
          date: 07/14/2008
          size: 64KiB
          capacity: 960KiB
          capabilities: pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect edd int13floppytoshiba int13floppy720 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer acpi usb biosbootspecification netboot
     *-cpu:0
          description: CPU
          product: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2180  @ 2.00GHz
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          physical id: 400
          bus info: cpu@0
          version: 6.15.13
          serial: 0000-06FD-0000-0000-0000-0000
          slot: CPU
          size: 2GHz
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 800MHz
          capabilities: x86-64 boot fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm dtherm
          configuration: cores=2 enabledcores=2 id=0 threads=2
        *-cache:0
             description: L1 cache
             physical id: 700
             size: 32KiB
             capacity: 32KiB
             capabilities: internal write-back data
             configuration: level=1
        *-cache:1
             description: L2 cache
             physical id: 701
             size: 1MiB
             capacity: 1MiB
             capabilities: internal varies unified
             configuration: level=2
        *-logicalcpu:0
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.1
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:1
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.2
             width: 64 bits
             capabilities: logical
     *-memory
          description: System Memory
          physical id: 1000
          slot: System board or motherboard
          size: 2GiB
        *-bank:0
             description: DIMM DDR2 Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
             product: V916765K24QCFW-G6
             vendor: ProMOS/Mosel Vitelic
             physical id: 0
             serial: 74741411
             slot: DIMM_1
             size: 1GiB
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 800MHz (1.2ns)
        *-bank:1
             description: DIMM DDR2 Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
             product: V916765K24QCFW-G6
             vendor: ProMOS/Mosel Vitelic
             physical id: 1
             serial: 64741412
             slot: DIMM_2
             size: 1GiB
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 800MHz (1.2ns)
     *-cpu:1
          physical id: 1
          bus info: cpu@1
          version: 6.15.13
          serial: 0000-06FD-0000-0000-0000-0000
          size: 2GHz
          capabilities: ht
          configuration: id=0
        *-logicalcpu:0
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.1
             capabilities: logical
        *-logicalcpu:1
             description: Logical CPU
             physical id: 0.2
             capabilities: logical
     *-pci
          description: Host bridge
          product: 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller
          vendor: Intel Corporation
          physical id: 100
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
          version: 0a
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          configuration: driver=agpgart-intel
          resources: irq:0
        *-pci:0
             description: PCI bridge
             product: 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express PCI Express Root Port
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
             version: 0a
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pm msi pciexpress normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:24 memory:dfc00000-dfcfffff
        *-display:0
             description: VGA compatible controller
             product: 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
             version: 0a
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
             configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
             resources: irq:26 memory:dfe00000-dfe7ffff ioport:ecd8(size=8) memory:c0000000-cfffffff memory:dff00000-dfffffff
        *-display:1 UNCLAIMED
             description: Display controller
             product: 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 2.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:02.1
             version: 0a
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
             configuration: latency=0
             resources: memory:dfe80000-dfefffff
        *-multimedia
             description: Audio device
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1b
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
             version: 01
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
             resources: irq:28 memory:dfdfc000-dfdfffff
        *-pci:1
             description: PCI bridge
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 1
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1c
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.0
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:25 ioport:1000(size=4096) memory:dfb00000-dfbfffff ioport:80000000(size=2097152)
           *-network
                description: Ethernet interface
                product: NetLink BCM5787 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
                vendor: Broadcom Corporation
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
                logical name: enp2s0
                version: 02
                serial: 00:1e:c9:5a:90:e2
                capacity: 1Gbit/s
                width: 64 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm vpd msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
                configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=tg3 driverversion=3.137 firmware=5787-v3.23 latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair
                resources: irq:29 memory:dfbf0000-dfbfffff
        *-usb:0
             description: USB controller
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:21 ioport:ff80(size=32)
           *-usbhost
                product: UHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-31-generic uhci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@2
                logical name: usb2
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
              *-usb
                   description: Keyboard
                   product: DELL USB Keyboard
                   vendor: DELL
                   physical id: 2
                   bus info: usb@2:2
                   version: 1.05
                   capabilities: usb-1.10
                   configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA speed=2Mbit/s
        *-usb:1
             description: USB controller
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.1
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:22 ioport:ff60(size=32)
           *-usbhost
                product: UHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-31-generic uhci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@3
                logical name: usb3
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
        *-usb:2
             description: USB controller
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.2
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:18 ioport:ff40(size=32)
           *-usbhost
                product: UHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-31-generic uhci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@4
                logical name: usb4
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
        *-usb:3
             description: USB controller
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.3
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:23 ioport:ff20(size=32)
           *-usbhost
                product: UHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-31-generic uhci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@5
                logical name: usb5
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
              *-usb
                   description: Mouse
                   product: ZELOTES GAME MOUSE
                   vendor: ZLY
                   physical id: 1
                   bus info: usb@5:1
                   version: 1.05
                   capabilities: usb-1.10
                   configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA speed=12Mbit/s
        *-usb:4
             description: USB controller
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.7
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.7
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=0
             resources: irq:21 memory:ff980800-ff980bff
           *-usbhost
                product: EHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-31-generic ehci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@1
                logical name: usb1
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-2.00
                configuration: driver=hub slots=8 speed=480Mbit/s
              *-usb
                   description: Mass storage device
                   product: USB DISK 2.0
                   physical id: 8
                   bus info: usb@1:8
                   logical name: scsi6
                   version: 1.00
                   serial: 07A70701001851FA
                   capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host
                   configuration: driver=usb-storage maxpower=200mA speed=480Mbit/s
                 *-disk
                      description: SCSI Disk
                      physical id: 0.0.0
                      bus info: scsi@6:0.0.0
                      logical name: /dev/sdb
                      size: 3814MiB (3999MB)
                      capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
                      configuration: logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512 signature=c5859342
                    *-volume
                         description: Windows FAT volume
                         vendor: SYSLINUX
                         physical id: 1
                         bus info: scsi@6:0.0.0,1
                         logical name: /dev/sdb1
                         logical name: /cdrom
                         version: FAT32
                         serial: 581e-54ee
                         size: 3813MiB
                         capacity: 3813MiB
                         capabilities: primary bootable fat initialized
                         configuration: FATs=2 filesystem=fat mount.fstype=vfat mount.options=ro,noatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro state=mounted
        *-pci:2
             description: PCI bridge
             product: 82801 PCI Bridge
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1e
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1e.0
             version: e1
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci subtractive_decode bus_master cap_list
        *-isa
             description: ISA bridge
             product: 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: isa bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=lpc_ich latency=0
             resources: irq:0
        *-ide
             description: IDE interface
             product: 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.1
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: ide bus_master
             configuration: driver=ata_piix latency=0
             resources: irq:16 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:ffa0(size=16)
        *-storage
             description: SATA controller
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.2
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: storage msi pm ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ahci latency=0
             resources: irq:27 ioport:fe00(size=8) ioport:fe10(size=4) ioport:fe20(size=8) ioport:fe30(size=4) ioport:fec0(size=16) memory:80200000-802003ff
        *-serial UNCLAIMED
             description: SMBus
             product: NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             configuration: latency=0
             resources: ioport:ece0(size=32)
     *-scsi:0
          physical id: 2
          logical name: scsi2
          capabilities: emulated
        *-disk
             description: ATA Disk
             product: WDC WD800JD-75MS
             vendor: Western Digital
             physical id: 0.0.0
             bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0
             logical name: /dev/sda
             version: 1E04
             serial: WD-WMAM9CUU2020
             size: 74GiB (80GB)
             capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
             configuration: ansiversion=5 logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512 signature=5eff4ed2
           *-volume:0
                description: Windows FAT volume
                vendor: Dell 8.0
                physical id: 1
                bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,1
                logical name: /dev/sda1
                version: FAT16
                serial: 07d8-0906
                size: 70MiB
                capacity: 70MiB
                capabilities: primary fat initialized
                configuration: FATs=2 filesystem=fat label=DellUtility
           *-volume:1
                description: Windows NTFS volume
                physical id: 2
                bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,2
                logical name: /dev/sda2
                version: 3.1
                serial: c00dccac-06b3-9d4b-b41d-a9512e453145
                size: 74GiB
                capacity: 74GiB
                capabilities: primary bootable ntfs initialized
                configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2008-09-06 08:38:21 filesystem=ntfs state=clean
     *-scsi:1
          physical id: 3
          logical name: scsi3
          capabilities: emulated
        *-cdrom
             description: DVD-RAM writer
             product: DVD+-RW GSA-H73N
             vendor: HL-DT-ST
             physical id: 0.0.0
             bus info: scsi@3:0.0.0
             logical name: /dev/cdrom
             logical name: /dev/cdrw
             logical name: /dev/dvd
             logical name: /dev/dvdrw
             logical name: /dev/sr0
             version: C106
             serial: [
             capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
             configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
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Forse la RAM attualmente installata su un pc non posso passarla sull'altro ?

C'è un modo per conoscere il nome della mb,voglio sapere quale ram posso installare ?
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Re: Chiarimento tra 32bit e 64bit ?

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http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/dell-0k ... port-list/

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Dell 0KP561 Mainboard Processor Support List.

 

* Intel Celeron Processors: 440, 430, 420

* Intel Core 2 Duo (Dual Core) Processors:  E7200, E6850, E6750, E6550, E4700, E4600, E4500, E2220, E2200, E2180, E2160
Per la prima: http://www.asrock.com/mb/VIA/4CoreDual-SATA2%20R2.0/
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Re: Chiarimento tra 32bit e 64bit ?

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trekfan1 [url=http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?p=4955673#p4955673][img]http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/images/icons/icona-cita.gif[/img][/url] ha scritto:http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/dell-0k ... port-list/

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Dell 0KP561 Mainboard Processor Support List.

 

* Intel Celeron Processors: 440, 430, 420

* Intel Core 2 Duo (Dual Core) Processors:  E7200, E6850, E6750, E6550, E4700, E4600, E4500, E2220, E2200, E2180, E2160
Per la prima: http://www.asrock.com/mb/VIA/4CoreDual-SATA2%20R2.0/
però sul dell dovrei poter aggiornare il bios della mb e installare anche la cpu e8500 .

Per l'altro pc,quello che non è della dell ma è stato assemblato con componenti dal veditore,non riesco a trovare il nome della scheda madre per vedere la compatibilità con le ram, c'è un modo per farlo ?

Ciao :)
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Re: Chiarimento tra 32bit e 64bit ?

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Ehm ti ho messo il link, è quella della Asrock
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ah ok,mi l'avevo confusa con quella del dell.

Quindi essendo che su quella asrock leggo tra i requisiti: "Supports Dual Channel DDR2 667 (DDR2 x 2 DIMM slots) and DDR400 (DDR x 2 DIMM slots)" misà proprio che non posso installarci i 2*1GB di ddr2 800 attualmente presenti sul dell ?
Vuol dire che gli lascierò solo 1gb di ram,anche se è pochino,ma non sarebbe il mio pc principale,proprio no !

Ma dove hai letto che la mb è quella asrock? cosi vorrei capirlo anche io,perchè quando do il comando lshw sul dell esce chiaramente il nome della scheda madre installata mentre in quest'altro caso ancora non ho visto dov'è scritto :nono:
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Ho fatto una rierca con google usando il nome della scheda madre che ti ha messo lshw, cmq puoi sempre provare a metterci i banchi ddr2 800, al massimo la scheda madre li farà andare a 667, mal che vada avrai schermo nero per cui ti basta rimettere la ram attuale, cmq aprendo il pc dovresti vedere ben stampigliato sulla scheda madre il nome del produttore
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trekfan1 [url=http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?p=4956323#p4956323][img]http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/images/icons/icona-cita.gif[/img][/url] ha scritto:Ho fatto una rierca con google usando il nome della scheda madre che ti ha messo lshw, cmq puoi sempre provare a metterci i banchi ddr2 800, al massimo la scheda madre li farà andare a 667, mal che vada avrai schermo nero per cui ti basta rimettere la ram attuale, cmq aprendo il pc dovresti vedere ben stampigliato sulla scheda madre il nome del produttore
Ok,capito,già li c'è scritto il modello !

Ma tornando alla differenza tra 32bit e 64bit l'unica differenza è che il 64bit permette di usare + ram ?

Oggi giorno,considerando che anche il mio pentium 4 è molto lento ed è già un 64bit, per quale motivo continuano a sviluppare i sistemi a 32bit ? :D (così per capire :) )
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Re: Chiarimento tra 32bit e 64bit ?

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Se leggi un po in giro sul web ma anche nel forum , troverai che il supporto per il 32 bit sta per finire , questo per quasi o tutte le distro .
Ricordo che sono da cell., non vogliatemene se non cito tutti o altro. Lo sapete che con quel display è un casino.
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Re: Chiarimento tra 32bit e 64bit ?

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giacomosmit [url=http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?p=4957137#p4957137][img]http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/images/icons/icona-cita.gif[/img][/url] ha scritto:Se leggi un po in giro sul web ma anche nel forum , troverai che il supporto per il 32 bit sta per finire , questo per quasi o tutte le distro .
Per le cpu intel e8500 su ebay si dovrebbe trovare, ma la ram è un pò + complicata da scegliere, a livello di compatibilità...sempre su ebay conviene comprarla ?

2*2GB costano circa sui 25-30€ ho trovato su ebay, la marca non è precisa perchè il venditore non la dichiara con precisione !

Se voi conoscete altri siti dove è possibile acquistarla usata fatemi sapere :)

Saluti :)
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