shouldes ha scritto:
Andrea09 ha scritto:
Ciao a tutti, vorrei condividere con voi le traversie che sto passando con Garlach44.
Ai primi di febbraio compro da loro un notebook così configurato:
Finlough 17.3"
Processore - Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-2760QM (2.40GHz)
Ram - 8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 (2 x 4GB)
Disco fisso - 120GB INTEL® 510 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s
Scheda grafica - NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M con 1GB GDDR3
Os - Ubuntu 11.10.
Appena acceso ha dato problemi. Dopo circa un minuto è andato in crash la prima volta. Ho provato ad aggiornalo ma durante l'operazione si è nuovamente bloccato. Ho pensato che fosse un problema di aggiornamenti e ho provato a reinstallare Ubuntu dal cd che mi avevano mandato loro. Anche qui, a metà operazione si è bloccato tutto. Ho quindi chiamato Garlach44. Un signore al telefono mi ha spiegato che, vista la particolare scheda grafica, occorre usare la versione alternate. Così ho reinstallato Ubuntu, ma non ho risolto il problema dei crash continui, in particolar modo durante la navigazione in internet.
Da Garlach44 prima mi hanno detto che era un problema di Flash, cosa ovviamente sbagliata. Il problema risiede nei driver della scheda grafica; gli originali Nvidia non supportano Unity. Quindi mi hanno consigliato di installare Ironhide con una configurazione che però non ho trovato tra quelle possibili del programma. Con un amico informatico ne abbiamo provata qualcuna, sino a che il sistema non si è bloccato del tutto ed ho dovuto reinstallare nuovamente Ubuntu.
Ho provato quindi a installare Bumblebee al posto di Ironhide. I crash si riducono, ma rimangono.
Da Garlach44 mi fanno installare nuovo kernel, da quanto ho capito quello della 12.04; ancora meglio ma il problema persiste.
Preso dallo sconforto gli rimando indietro la macchina. E' arrivata da loro mercoledì 7 e oggi mi dicono che impiegheranno circa 2/3 settimane per sistemarla. Se mai è possibile, visto che il problema sembrano essere i driver video.
A questo punto mi chiedo - e ho chiesto a loro: perché installare una scheda grafica per la quale mancano i driver per Unity e che da quindi tutti questi problemi? Specialmente quando sul loro sito il messaggio è: i computer Garlach44 perfetti per Ubuntu. Loro dicono che vengono l'hardware e che - bontà loro - installano Ubuntu perché gli piace ma non garantiscono che funzioni. Non è certo quello che si capisce dal loro sito. Del resto da qualche giorno il sistema che mettono di default sui loro notebook non è più Ubuntu ma Trisquel. Sarà un caso?
Anche 2/3 settimane mi sembra un tempo lungo per un computer in garanzia e che ha dato problemi dal primo giorno. Se tenessero all'immagine e al loro nome penso potrebbero essere più veloci. Oggi poi al telefono mi hanno detto che se voglio velocizzare esiste un servizio a pagamento.
Risultato: computer comprato a metà febbraio, sono fortunato se lo vedrò funzionante ad aprile.
Sono perplesso e ho paura di essermi preso un bidone colossale.
andrea
I driver Nvidia non hanno alcun problema con Unity.
Il problema è il loro bios che a quanto pare non disattiva la Intel integrata nelle cpu che crea tutti questi problemi.
Persino su portatili con Seven ho trovato opzioni per disattivare la Intel integrata, debellare Optimus, quindi risolvere ogni tipo di problema.
Fin tanto che non si fanno fare una versione bios con opzioni per disattivare la Intel integrata (come molte case fanno su qualche modello), avranno sempre questo genere di problemi.
Il problema non è flash, non è il driver nvidia, ma la coesistenza di una scheda video Intel non disattivata.
Andrea09 ha scritto:
Ho aspettato qualche giorno e posso dire che adesso il notebook funziona.
Si trattava di un problema di Cpu; i driver video non c'entravano. Meglio così.
Grazie e a presto,
andrea
Puoi postare:
Tanto per capire se hanno aggiornato il bios disattivando la Intel integrata
Ciao shouldes, ecco i risultati dei comandi che mi hai chiesto di provare:
lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF106 [GeForce GT 555M] (rev a1)
sudo lshw -sanitize
description: Laptop
product: W150HNM/W170HN (System SKUNumber)
vendor: CLEVO CO.
version: 0.1
serial: [REMOVED]
width: 64 bits
capabilities: smbios-2.6 dmi-2.6 vsyscall64 vsyscall32
configuration: administrator_password=unknown boot=normal chassis=laptop family=HuronRiver System frontpanel_password=unknown keyboard_password=unknown power-on_password=unknown sku=System SKUNumber uuid=[REMOVED]
*-core
description: Motherboard
product: W150HNM/W170HN
vendor: CLEVO CO.
physical id: 0
version: D03
serial: [REMOVED]
slot: Part Component
*-firmware
description: BIOS
vendor: Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
physical id: 0
version: HR_2.1.0.128 X64
date: 10/07/2011
size: 128KiB
capacity: 2496KiB
capabilities: pci upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect edd int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video pc98 acpi usb biosbootspecification netboot
*-cpu
description: CPU
product: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2760QM CPU @ 2.40GHz
vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 2f
bus info: cpu@0
version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2760QM CPU @ 2.40GHz
serial: [REMOVED]
slot: CPU
size: 800MHz
capacity: 800MHz
width: 64 bits
clock: 100MHz
capabilities: x86-64 fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt aes xsave avx lahf_lm ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid cpufreq
configuration: cores=4 enabledcores=4 threads=8
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
physical id: 30
slot: L1-Cache
size: 64KiB
capacity: 64KiB
capabilities: synchronous internal write-through data
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: 31
slot: L2-Cache
size: 256KiB
capacity: 256KiB
capabilities: synchronous internal write-through data
*-cache:2
description: L3 cache
physical id: 32
slot: L3-Cache
size: 6MiB
capacity: 6MiB
capabilities: synchronous internal write-back unified
*-memory
description: System Memory
physical id: 33
slot: System board or motherboard
size: 8GiB
*-bank:0
description: SODIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1600 MHz (0,6 ns)
product: 9905428-063.A00LF
vendor: Kingston
physical id: 0
serial: [REMOVED]
slot: ChannelA-DIMM0
size: 4GiB
width: 64 bits
clock: 1600MHz (0.6ns)
*-bank:1
description: DIMM [empty]
physical id: 1
slot: ChannelA-DIMM1
*-bank:2
description: SODIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1600 MHz (0,6 ns)
product: 9905428-063.A00LF
vendor: Kingston
physical id: 2
serial: [REMOVED]
slot: ChannelB-DIMM0
size: 4GiB
width: 64 bits
clock: 1600MHz (0.6ns)
*-bank:3
description: DIMM [empty]
physical id: 3
slot: ChannelB-DIMM1
*-pci
description: Host bridge
product: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 09
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: driver=agpgart-intel
resources: irq:0
*-pci:0
description: PCI bridge
product: Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
version: 09
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pm msi pciexpress normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:42 ioport:4000(size=4096) memory:f0000000-f0ffffff ioport:c0000000(size=301989888)
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: GF106 [GeForce GT 555M]
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
version: a1
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
resources: irq:16 memory:f0000000-f0ffffff memory:c0000000-cfffffff memory:d0000000-d1ffffff ioport:4000(size=128)
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 2
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
version: 09
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
resources: irq:53 memory:f1000000-f13fffff memory:e0000000-efffffff ioport:5000(size=64)
*-communication
description: Communication controller
product: 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 16
bus info: pci@0000:00:16.0
version: 04
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=mei latency=0
resources: irq:16 memory:f3705000-f370500f
*-usb:0
description: USB Controller
product: 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1a
bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.0
version: 05
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:16 memory:f370a000-f370a3ff
*-multimedia
description: Audio device
product: 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1b
bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
version: 05
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=0
resources: irq:55 memory:f3700000-f3703fff
*-pci:1
description: PCI bridge
product: 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1c
bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.0
version: b5
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:16
*-pci:2
description: PCI bridge
product: 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1c.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.1
version: b5
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:17 ioport:3000(size=4096) memory:f2e00000-f36fffff ioport:f1400000(size=8388608)
*-usb
description: USB Controller
product: uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller
vendor: NEC Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
version: 04
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi msix pciexpress xhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=xhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:17 memory:f2e00000-f2e01fff
*-pci:3
description: PCI bridge
product: 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1c.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.2
version: b5
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:18 memory:f2d00000-f2dfffff
*-network DISABLED
description: Wireless interface
product: Centrino Advanced-N 6230
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:08:00.0
logical name: wlan0
version: 34
serial: [REMOVED]
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlagn driverversion=3.0.0-18-generic firmware=17.168.5.1 build 33993 latency=0 link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn
resources: irq:52 memory:f2d00000-f2d01fff
*-pci:4
description: PCI bridge
product: 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1c.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.3
version: b5
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:19 ioport:2000(size=4096) memory:f2400000-f2cfffff ioport:f1c00000(size=8388608)
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: JMC250 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
vendor: JMicron Technology Corp.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:09:00.0
logical name: eth0
version: 05
serial: [REMOVED]
size: 100Mbit/s
capacity: 1Gbit/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msix msi bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=jme driverversion=1.0.8 duplex=full ip=[REMOVED] latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s
resources: irq:54 memory:f2410000-f2413fff ioport:2100(size=128) ioport:2000(size=256) memory:f2400000-f240ffff memory:f1c00000-f1c0ffff
*-generic:0
description: System peripheral
product: SD/MMC Host Controller
vendor: JMicron Technology Corp.
physical id: 0.1
bus info: pci@0000:09:00.1
version: 90
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=sdhci-pci latency=0
resources: irq:16 memory:f2416000-f24160ff
*-generic:1 UNCLAIMED
description: SD Host controller
product: Standard SD Host Controller
vendor: JMicron Technology Corp.
physical id: 0.2
bus info: pci@0000:09:00.2
version: 90
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msi cap_list
configuration: latency=0
resources: memory:f2415000-f24150ff
*-generic:2
description: System peripheral
product: MS Host Controller
vendor: JMicron Technology Corp.
physical id: 0.3
bus info: pci@0000:09:00.3
version: 90
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=jmb38x_ms latency=0
resources: irq:16 memory:f2414000-f24140ff
*-usb:1
description: USB Controller
product: 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0
version: 05
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:23 memory:f3709000-f37093ff
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: HM65 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
version: 05
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
*-storage
description: SATA controller
product: 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.2
logical name: scsi1
logical name: scsi2
version: 05
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: storage msi pm ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list emulated
configuration: driver=ahci latency=0
resources: irq:43 ioport:5088(size=8) ioport:5094(size=4) ioport:5080(size=8) ioport:5090(size=4) ioport:5060(size=32) memory:f3708000-f37087ff
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: KINGSTON SH100S3
physical id: 0
bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sda
version: 332A
serial: [REMOVED]
size: 111GiB (120GB)
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=000a4bb7
*-volume:0
description: EXT4 volume
vendor: Linux
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0,1
logical name: /dev/sda1
logical name: /
version: 1.0
serial: [REMOVED]
size: 103GiB
capacity: 103GiB
capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink extents ext4 ext2 initialized
configuration: created=2012-03-22 14:33:35 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/ modified=2012-04-03 20:57:55 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered mounted=2012-04-04 11:19:46 state=mounted
*-volume:1
description: Extended partition
physical id: 2
bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0,2
logical name: /dev/sda2
size: 8104MiB
capacity: 8104MiB
capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended
*-logicalvolume
description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
physical id: 5
logical name: /dev/sda5
capacity: 8104MiB
capabilities: nofs
*-cdrom
description: DVD-RAM writer
product: DVD RW AD-7740H
vendor: Optiarc
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/cdrom
logical name: /dev/cdrw
logical name: /dev/dvd
logical name: /dev/dvdrw
logical name: /dev/scd0
logical name: /dev/sr0
version: 1.00
capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
*-serial UNCLAIMED
description: SMBus
product: 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3
version: 05
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: latency=0
resources: memory:f3704000-f37040ff ioport:efa0(size=32)
*-battery
product: Smart Battery
vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 1
version: 2008
serial: [REMOVED]
slot: Rear
*-power UNCLAIMED
description: TBD by ODM
product: TBD by ODM
vendor: TBD by ODM
physical id: 2
version: 1.0
serial: [REMOVED]
capacity: 32768mWh
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Grazie,
andrea