Come capire se Hardware è identificato
Come capire se Hardware è identificato
Ciao!
Ho uno scanner collegato al pc tramite porta parallela.
Come posso capire se il computer lo vede?
In altri casi, con periferiche usb, posso usare lsusb.
Ma in questo caso?
P.S. Lo scanner è un HP Scanjet 3200C... che non sono mai riuscito a far funzionare :'(
Ho uno scanner collegato al pc tramite porta parallela.
Come posso capire se il computer lo vede?
In altri casi, con periferiche usb, posso usare lsusb.
Ma in questo caso?
P.S. Lo scanner è un HP Scanjet 3200C... che non sono mai riuscito a far funzionare :'(
Re: Come capire se Hardware è identificato
Su questo sito: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/HP_Scanjet_3200C_Scanner_c11031.html sembra che Sane vada ricompilato da sorgenti configurandolo con l'opzione --enable-parport.
Re: Come capire se Hardware è identificato
Ehm.. tradotto per principianti come me... cosa dovrei fare? :Pziomax66 ha scritto: Su questo sito: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/HP_Scanjet_3200C_Scanner_c11031.html sembra che Sane vada ricompilato da sorgenti configurandolo con l'opzione --enable-parport.
Re: Come capire se Hardware è identificato
:-\ :-\ :-\..mi spiace ma con sane e gli scanner ho mai smanettato.palimmo ha scritto:Ehm.. tradotto per principianti come me... cosa dovrei fare? :Pziomax66 ha scritto: Su questo sito: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/HP_Scanjet_3200C_Scanner_c11031.html sembra che Sane vada ricompilato da sorgenti configurandolo con l'opzione --enable-parport.
Re: Come capire se Hardware è identificato
Mi segno questo... spero mi sia utile
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? ... ight=3200C
http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-umax_pp.5.html
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? ... ight=3200C
http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-umax_pp.5.html
Ultima modifica di palimmo il lunedì 15 giugno 2009, 18:06, modificato 1 volta in totale.
Re: Come capire se Hardware è identificato
Qualcuno/a puo' aiutarmi? Non saprei come partire.. :-\palimmo ha scritto: Mi segno questo... spero mi sia utile
http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-umax_pp.5.html
Re: Come capire se Hardware è identificato
Lanciando il comandouggi ha scritto: prova con lshw
lshw
non mi trova nulla che possa essere il mio scanner.
Devo incominciare a pensare che lo scanner mi abbia salutato da tempo??
Ecco l'output del comando:
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description: Tower Computer
product: System Name
vendor: System Manufacturer
version: System Version
serial: SYS-1234567890
width: 32 bits
capabilities: smbios-2.3 dmi-2.3
configuration: boot=normal chassis=tower
*-core
description: Motherboard
product: A7V8X
vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
physical id: 0
version: REV 1.xx
serial: xxxxxxxxxxx
*-firmware
description: BIOS
vendor: Award Software, Inc.
physical id: 0
version: ASUS A7V8X ACPI BIOS Revision 1007 (10/04/2002)
size: 64KiB
capacity: 448KiB
capabilities: pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy360 int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb agp
*-cpu
description: CPU
product: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2400+
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 4
bus info: cpu@0
version: 6.8.1
slot: SOCKET A
size: 2GHz
capacity: 2250MHz
width: 32 bits
clock: 133MHz
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up ts
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
physical id: 9
slot: L1 Cache
size: 128KiB
capacity: 128KiB
capabilities: pipeline-burst synchronous internal write-back data
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: a
slot: L2 Cache
size: 256KiB
capacity: 8MiB
capabilities: pipeline-burst synchronous internal write-back data
*-memory
description: System Memory
physical id: 27
slot: System board or motherboard
size: 512MiB
capacity: 3GiB
*-bank:0
description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous
physical id: 0
slot: DDR 1
size: 256MiB
width: 64 bits
*-bank:1
description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous
physical id: 1
slot: DDR 2
size: 256MiB
width: 64 bits
*-bank:2
description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous [empty]
physical id: 2
slot: DDR 3
*-pci
description: Host bridge
product: VT8377 [KT400/KT600 AGP] Host Bridge
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
configuration: driver=agpgart-via module=via_agp
*-pci
description: PCI bridge
product: VT8235 PCI Bridge
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pci pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200]
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
version: a3
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pm agp agp-2.0 vga_controller bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=nvidia latency=248 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5 module=nvidia
*-firewire
description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
product: IEEE 1394 Host Controller
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 7
bus info: pci@0000:00:07.0
version: 46
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm ohci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ohci1394 latency=32 maxlatency=32 module=ohci1394
*-storage
description: RAID bus controller
product: PDC20376 (FastTrak 376)
vendor: Promise Technology, Inc.
physical id: 8
bus info: pci@0000:00:08.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: storage pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=sata_promise latency=96 maxlatency=18 mingnt=4 module=sata_promise
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: BCM4401 100Base-T
vendor: Broadcom Corporation
physical id: 9
bus info: pci@0000:00:09.0
logical name: eth0
version: 01
serial: 00:e0:18:ba:8e:e0
size: 100MB/s
capacity: 100MB/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=b44 driverversion=2.0 duplex=full ip=192.168.1.2 latency=32 link=yes module=ssb multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=100MB/s
*-communication UNCLAIMED
description: Communication controller
product: HSF 56k HSFi Modem
vendor: Conexant
physical id: e
bus info: pci@0000:00:0e.0
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=32
*-usb:0
description: USB Controller
product: VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 10
bus info: pci@0000:00:10.0
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:1
description: USB Controller
product: VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 10.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:10.1
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:2
description: USB Controller
product: VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 10.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:10.2
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:3
description: USB Controller
product: USB 2.0
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 10.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:10.3
version: 82
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=32 module=ehci_hcd
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: VT8235 ISA Bridge
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 11
bus info: pci@0000:00:11.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: isa pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
*-ide
description: IDE interface
product: VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 11.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:11.1
logical name: scsi3
logical name: scsi4
version: 06
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ide pm bus_master cap_list emulated
configuration: driver=pata_via latency=32 module=pata_via
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: Maxtor 6Y080L0
vendor: Maxtor
physical id: 0
bus info: scsi@3:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sda
version: YAR4
serial: Y304YKNE
size: 76GiB (81GB)
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=b674b674
*-volume:0
description: Windows NTFS volume
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@3:0.0.0,1
logical name: /dev/sda1
logical name: /media/hda1
version: 3.1
serial: 581971ef-4894-0342-a79a-3baa671e50b7
size: 6502MiB
capacity: 6502MiB
capabilities: primary bootable ntfs initialized
configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2004-03-10 20:06:31 filesystem=ntfs label=hda1 mount.fstype=fuseblk mount.options=rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other state=mounted
*-volume:1
description: Extended partition
physical id: 2
bus info: scsi@3:0.0.0,2
logical name: /dev/sda2
size: 69GiB
capacity: 69GiB
capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended
*-logicalvolume:0
description: HPFS/NTFS partition
physical id: 5
logical name: /dev/sda5
logical name: /media/hda5
capacity: 58GiB
configuration: mount.fstype=fuseblk mount.options=rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other state=mounted
*-logicalvolume:1
description: Linux filesystem partition
physical id: 6
logical name: /dev/sda6
logical name: /
logical name: /dev/.static/dev
capacity: 10GiB
configuration: mount.fstype=ext3 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered state=mounted
*-logicalvolume:2
description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
physical id: 7
logical name: /dev/sda7
capacity: 1145MiB
capabilities: nofs
*-cdrom:0
description: DVD reader
product: DVD-ROM GDR8161B
vendor: HL-DT-ST
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/cdrom1
logical name: /dev/dvd1
logical name: /dev/scd0
logical name: /dev/sr0
version: 0100
capabilities: removable audio dvd
configuration: ansiversion=5 status=open
*-cdrom:1
description: CD-R/CD-RW writer
product: PCRW804
vendor: PHILIPS
physical id: 0.1.0
bus info: scsi@4:0.1.0
logical name: /dev/cdrom
logical name: /dev/scd1
logical name: /dev/sr1
version: 2.0
serial: 3PHILIPS PCRW804 2.04
capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw
configuration: ansiversion=5 status=open
*-multimedia
description: Multimedia audio controller
product: VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 11.5
bus info: pci@0000:00:11.5
version: 50
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm cap_list
configuration: driver=VIA 82xx Audio latency=0 module=snd_via82xx
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Re: Come capire se Hardware è identificato
ma la porta stampante è attiva nel bios ?
Re: Come capire se Hardware è identificato
Direi proprio di si.uggi ha scritto: ma la porta stampante è attiva nel bios ?
Lo scanner é collegato alla porta parallela. A sua volta, allo scanner é attaccata una stampante Epson che ha sempre funzionato.
Che sia lo scanner a non funzionare piu'??
Ultima modifica di palimmo il lunedì 15 giugno 2009, 19:06, modificato 1 volta in totale.
Re: Come capire se Hardware è identificato
Ecco l'output con la stampante accesa (e funzionante)uggi ha scritto: ma la porta stampante è attiva nel bios ?
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description: Tower Computer
product: System Name
vendor: System Manufacturer
version: System Version
serial: SYS-1234567890
width: 32 bits
capabilities: smbios-2.3 dmi-2.3
configuration: boot=normal chassis=tower
*-core
description: Motherboard
product: A7V8X
vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
physical id: 0
version: REV 1.xx
serial: xxxxxxxxxxx
*-firmware
description: BIOS
vendor: Award Software, Inc.
physical id: 0
version: ASUS A7V8X ACPI BIOS Revision 1007 (10/04/2002)
size: 64KiB
capacity: 448KiB
capabilities: pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy360 int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb agp
*-cpu
description: CPU
product: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2400+
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 4
bus info: cpu@0
version: 6.8.1
slot: SOCKET A
size: 2GHz
capacity: 2250MHz
width: 32 bits
clock: 133MHz
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up ts
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
physical id: 9
slot: L1 Cache
size: 128KiB
capacity: 128KiB
capabilities: pipeline-burst synchronous internal write-back data
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: a
slot: L2 Cache
size: 256KiB
capacity: 8MiB
capabilities: pipeline-burst synchronous internal write-back data
*-memory
description: System Memory
physical id: 27
slot: System board or motherboard
size: 512MiB
capacity: 3GiB
*-bank:0
description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous
physical id: 0
slot: DDR 1
size: 256MiB
width: 64 bits
*-bank:1
description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous
physical id: 1
slot: DDR 2
size: 256MiB
width: 64 bits
*-bank:2
description: DIMM DRAM Synchronous [empty]
physical id: 2
slot: DDR 3
*-pci
description: Host bridge
product: VT8377 [KT400/KT600 AGP] Host Bridge
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
configuration: driver=agpgart-via module=via_agp
*-pci
description: PCI bridge
product: VT8235 PCI Bridge
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pci pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200]
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
version: a3
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pm agp agp-2.0 vga_controller bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=nvidia latency=248 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5 module=nvidia
*-firewire
description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
product: IEEE 1394 Host Controller
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 7
bus info: pci@0000:00:07.0
version: 46
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm ohci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ohci1394 latency=32 maxlatency=32 module=ohci1394
*-storage
description: RAID bus controller
product: PDC20376 (FastTrak 376)
vendor: Promise Technology, Inc.
physical id: 8
bus info: pci@0000:00:08.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: storage pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=sata_promise latency=96 maxlatency=18 mingnt=4 module=sata_promise
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: BCM4401 100Base-T
vendor: Broadcom Corporation
physical id: 9
bus info: pci@0000:00:09.0
logical name: eth0
version: 01
serial: 00:e0:18:ba:8e:e0
size: 100MB/s
capacity: 100MB/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=b44 driverversion=2.0 duplex=full ip=192.168.1.2 latency=32 link=yes module=ssb multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=100MB/s
*-communication UNCLAIMED
description: Communication controller
product: HSF 56k HSFi Modem
vendor: Conexant
physical id: e
bus info: pci@0000:00:0e.0
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=32
*-usb:0
description: USB Controller
product: VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 10
bus info: pci@0000:00:10.0
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:1
description: USB Controller
product: VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 10.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:10.1
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:2
description: USB Controller
product: VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 10.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:10.2
version: 80
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm uhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:3
description: USB Controller
product: USB 2.0
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 10.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:10.3
version: 82
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=32 module=ehci_hcd
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: VT8235 ISA Bridge
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 11
bus info: pci@0000:00:11.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: isa pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
*-ide
description: IDE interface
product: VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 11.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:11.1
logical name: scsi3
logical name: scsi4
version: 06
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ide pm bus_master cap_list emulated
configuration: driver=pata_via latency=32 module=pata_via
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: Maxtor 6Y080L0
vendor: Maxtor
physical id: 0
bus info: scsi@3:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sda
version: YAR4
serial: Y304YKNE
size: 76GiB (81GB)
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=b674b674
*-volume:0
description: Windows NTFS volume
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@3:0.0.0,1
logical name: /dev/sda1
logical name: /media/hda1
version: 3.1
serial: 581971ef-4894-0342-a79a-3baa671e50b7
size: 6502MiB
capacity: 6502MiB
capabilities: primary bootable ntfs initialized
configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2004-03-10 20:06:31 filesystem=ntfs label=hda1 mount.fstype=fuseblk mount.options=rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other state=mounted
*-volume:1
description: Extended partition
physical id: 2
bus info: scsi@3:0.0.0,2
logical name: /dev/sda2
size: 69GiB
capacity: 69GiB
capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended
*-logicalvolume:0
description: HPFS/NTFS partition
physical id: 5
logical name: /dev/sda5
logical name: /media/hda5
capacity: 58GiB
configuration: mount.fstype=fuseblk mount.options=rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other state=mounted
*-logicalvolume:1
description: Linux filesystem partition
physical id: 6
logical name: /dev/sda6
logical name: /
logical name: /dev/.static/dev
capacity: 10GiB
configuration: mount.fstype=ext3 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered state=mounted
*-logicalvolume:2
description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
physical id: 7
logical name: /dev/sda7
capacity: 1145MiB
capabilities: nofs
*-cdrom:0
description: DVD reader
product: DVD-ROM GDR8161B
vendor: HL-DT-ST
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/cdrom1
logical name: /dev/dvd1
logical name: /dev/scd0
logical name: /dev/sr0
version: 0100
capabilities: removable audio dvd
configuration: ansiversion=5 status=open
*-cdrom:1
description: CD-R/CD-RW writer
product: PCRW804
vendor: PHILIPS
physical id: 0.1.0
bus info: scsi@4:0.1.0
logical name: /dev/cdrom
logical name: /dev/scd1
logical name: /dev/sr1
version: 2.0
serial: 3PHILIPS PCRW804 2.04
capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw
configuration: ansiversion=5 status=open
*-multimedia
description: Multimedia audio controller
product: VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
physical id: 11.5
bus info: pci@0000:00:11.5
version: 50
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm cap_list
configuration: driver=VIA 82xx Audio latency=0 module=snd_via82xx-
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Re: Come capire se Hardware è identificato
hai una versione di windows xp? eventualmente potresti risolvere creando una macchina virtuale di windows con Virtualbox.
Ps: c'è qualche lucetta accesa nello scanner, arriva l'alimentazione ?
Ps: c'è qualche lucetta accesa nello scanner, arriva l'alimentazione ?
Re: Come capire se Hardware è identificato
La luce non é accesa. Ora, ammetto che non ricordo se ai tempi su Win95 la luce era sempre accesa o solo in fase di scansione...uggi ha scritto: hai una versione di windows xp? eventualmente potresti risolvere creando una macchina virtuale di windows con Virtualbox.
Ps: c'è qualche lucetta accesa nello scanner, arriva l'alimentazione ?
P.S. Su win xp non va questo scanner... >:(
Eppure su ubuntu qualcuno lo usa...argh....
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Re: Come capire se Hardware è identificato
...aspetta ho trovato quelli originali HP per win XP:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/Te ... Id=3837263
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/Te ... Id=3837263
Re: Come capire se Hardware è identificato
grazie.uggi ha scritto: ...aspetta ho trovato quelli originali HP per win XP:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/Te ... Id=3837263
Mi sara' utile per capire se lo scanner è ancora vivo o meno...
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